Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[ImperfectPixie]

Indeed.

And yes, TrainChasers, it is the least of their worries but it's very sad nonetheless for this moment in their lives - as their lives revolve around school right now. Remember when you were that age.

I sure do...and now that I'm older, I understand why I had the attitudes I did at the time. I'm really glad that officials are addressing young people - those least at risk and who tend to have an "I'll live forever!" attitude - and asking them to comply with what seems like over-reaction.

 

[21stamps]

I'm not sure kids care about prom. The reality, they can have fun on social media and in other mediums unfortunately. Graduation is a bummer

I would think that a lot of kids still care about prom.

Indeed.

And yes, TrainChasers, it is the least of their worries but it's very sad nonetheless for this moment in their lives - as their lives revolve around school right now. Remember when you were that age.

My heart hurts for 8th graders and Seniors in this country. .
So many plans & events ruined, ones they’ve been looking forward to for most of their lives.. and my heart absolutely breaks for the 8th grade and Senior athletes who will not get their last games or season representing their school.

 

[WEDway Inc & Company LLC]

State of Florida universities are moving to remote instruction for the rest of the semester. Graduations are canceled. April 30 sounds about right.

Keep in mind that this isn't a final reopening date. Things can change, and to be honest, I feel like it will be pushed into Second Week of May, but that's my speculation, no source there. (The part about the 30th is from a source.)

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Boston mayor Marty Walsh is currently live and basically begging people to try to avoid contact with others. No visiting family, etc. etc. Urged the elderly to self-isolate and not to worry, that food and supplies will be delivered to them. Scary stuff here, folks.

 

[ifan]

What nobody has really quantified is how contagious asymptomatic people are. China and South Korea based a lot of their containment on temperature checks. There were some statements from the WHO that asymptomatic spread is not a large driver of overall spread.

It makes a difference if asymptomatic patients can spread the virus easily just by being in the same room and breathing or if they have to (disgustingly) pick their nose and touch a surface that is then touched by somebody else.

Regarding the mortality rate, it was stated in today's briefing that the mortality rate was looking like it was around 0.7% in reality. If you start with that rate, then the real rate (if the 86% asymptomatic is true) is more like 0.1% or approximately the same as the flu. Granted, due to lack of a vaccine, the infection rate would be higher so there would be more deaths in total.

I listened to that entire press conference and don't remember hearing anyone say that the mortality rate was around .7% in reality.
We know that is the current rate in South Korea - maybe that is where the confusion lies? Yes they have a higher level of testing - but there are a whole bunch of other inputs that have allowed them to keep their infection rate lower. The raw/uncontrolled with zero precautions number would be much higher even in SK.

There also has been some early research done on how contagious people are early on:

"German study N=9 of viral shedding characteristics in confirmed Covid patients. Very high viral load early in illness, approx 1000 times greater than SARS. At DAY 8 of active symptoms, no longer able to detect active virus in samples, only viral RNA. Only viral RNA in feces, never detected active virus. They're following up now with N=23 cohort."

We should be doing more temp checks + wearing surgical masks (if for no other reason than to prevent people who are coughing or sneezing from spreading whatever infection they have to others.)

 

[Lilofan]

Boston mayor Marty Walsh is currently live and basically begging people to try to avoid contact with others. No visiting family, etc. etc. Urged the elderly to self-isolate and not to worry, that food and supplies will be delivered to them. Scary stuff here, folks.

I wish the spring breakers in Clearwater and South Beach in FL could listen. Saw on TV, that the beaches were packed with spring breakers.

 

[Quinnmac000]

Exactly! That's why some countries are finally seeing their peak of cases starting to flatten about 2 weeks after a lockdown. The longer we wait with enforcing stricter measures the longer this will drag out. I wish Florida would shut non-essential businesses and shut the beaches. Seeing the packed beaches and bars is making me nervous.

The beaches don't necessarily need to close. People being able to go outside is key to help people from feeling they are in a prison which breaks quarantine. As long as families maintain social distancing when doing outdoor activities to include hiking, walking, etc in which they can control their surroundings. Controlling the surroundings is why Universal and Disney have to close and why the guidance to have small gatherings. Outside 10 people spread out, one person coughs way less likely to effect someone than at Disneyworld which if remained open would still pack people into the parks where if someone coughs there is no escape.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

This is the only way to do it. The federal government does not have the legal authority to order any of these things. They can only issue guidelines and then ask the Governors to turn those guidelines into orders at the state level.

That’s bogus...the federal government has every authority to take control in this situation.

The lack of leadership in our current generation of men is one of the reasons this country is falling apart.

 

[GoofGoof]

It's crazy to see how fast attitudes are changing. Back when WDW first announced closing people were hopeful it would just be for two weeks; now I'm seeing people unsure if it'll be open for their June trip.

I’m a little worried about August now.

 

[MuteSuperstar]

I wish the spring breakers in Clearwater and South Beach in FL could listen. Saw on TV, that the beaches were packed with spring breakers.

They'll have to close the beaches to get these morons to listen.

 

[JoeCamel]

Keep in mind that this isn't a final reopening date. Things can change, and to be honest, I feel like it will be pushed into Second Week of May, but that's my speculation, no source there. (The part about the 30th is from a source.)

The governor cancelled classes in the K-12 system for the rest of the school year. I think the higher learning will not return this semester or next to regular classes. Online for now and none for next.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

They'll have to close the beaches to get these morons to listen.

I wouldn't call them morons...they're just young and their brains aren't able to grasp the long-term consequences yet.

 

[ifan]

This is the only way to do it. The federal government does not have the legal authority to order any of these things. They can only issue guidelines and then ask the Governors to turn those guidelines into orders at the state level.

Oh the federal government absolutely has legal authority to lock people down. It would be unprecedented and I hope they don't have to do it - but they've publicly stated several times that it is an option. You're right that it is more likely to happen on a state by state basis first, though.

 

[21stamps]

The governor cancelled classes in the K-12 system for the rest of the school year. I think the higher learning will not return this semester or next to regular classes. Online for now and none for next.

In what state?

This is not true in Florida. Not unless it was just announced now.

 

[Lilofan]

In what state?

This is not true in Florida. Not unless it was just announced now.

Governor Laura Kelly of Kansas.

 

[MuteSuperstar]

I wouldn't call them morons...they're just young and their brains aren't able to grasp the long-term consequences yet.

Eh I guess....but they're not infants.

 

[DCBaker]

The governor cancelled classes in the K-12 system for the rest of the school year. I think the higher learning will not return this semester or next to regular classes. Online for now and none for next.

As of now, classes are cancelled in FL until April 15th, then on-line learning will start.

Editing to clarify -

Gov. DeSantis says K-12 schools must stay closed until April 15, classes to resume remotely

"Parents may at their discretion choose to keep their child in the same grade for the 2021 school year," Gov. Ron DeSantis said.

www.pnj.com

Florida K-12 students will stay off school campuses until at least April 15 because of the coronavirus pandemic, but they will begin some type of online or remote instruction on March 30, Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Tuesday afternoon.

DeSantis said he and Florida Department of Education Commissioner Richard Corcoran were waiving state testing requirements for the school year and the requirements that students must take the test to graduate or advance to the next grade.

"Parents may at their discretion choose to keep their child in the same grade for the 2021 school year," DeSantis said.

 

[Nubs70]

Again, I think this is a bit of misplaced blame.

Have you not heard of "lean supply chain"?

The bigger the company, the leaner they try to keep their supply chains. In normal times, lean supply = maximizing $$$.

More or less, we see the same thing at MK. WDW doesn't make money off of empty seats. Operating rides and staffing restaurants costs $. they want butts in seats from park opening until park close.

Stores don't make money stocking lots of toilet paper. It is bulky and the stores don't make money off of it, so they don't keep a big supply on hand.

Lean means minimum money tied up in inventory. The leaner a process is the higher the velocity of money

 

[21stamps]

Governor Laura Kelly of Kansas.

Is Disney World in Kansas?

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Eh I guess....but they're not infants.

Oh, I absolutely agree. I mean, the young don't like listening to us frumpy old folks in normal circumstances...you'd wish that a national emergency would get them to listen, but their brains and biology work against them, and in this case - the rest of us, too.