Star Wars Land vs Wizarding World

[Chef Mickey]

I'm not sure where you pulled that number out of, but, I don't even smoke anymore and I know it would be to everyone's benefit if there were more designated smoking areas.

Conjecture, but smoking has become a completely taboo habit that shouldn’t be around kids anyway. I don’t wish there were smoking areas at restaurants or hotels rooms, so I don’t think additional smoking “areas” at Disney benefit the overwhelming majority that want no smoking.

It would be far better to enforce a no smoking policy and perhaps have one smoking area in an annex.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Tell that to the 2000 Frenchmen and Spaniards that just landed at MCO

Word up.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Conjecture, but smoking has become a completely taboo habit that shouldn’t be around kids anyway. I don’t wish there were smoking areas at restaurants or hotels rooms, so I don’t think additional smoking “areas” at Disney benefit the overwhelming majority that want no smoking.

It would be far better to enforce a no smoking policy and perhaps have one smoking area in an annex.

Again, you are creating this overwhelming majority scenario. Perhaps, majority, but I truly question the overwhelming part. I know why it is happening, but please, there is quite a difference between restaurants and hotel rooms when compared to open outdoor areas. So many people my age were constantly bombarded with smoke everywhere. In the 50's everybody smoked including people that were hospitalized, in fact the hospitals sold cigarettes to them. In 1977, I had my wisdom teeth removed and had to stay overnight. I had slept all day during the procedure and was wide awake all night walking the halls of the hospital smoking. We lived in homes and rode in closed cars with parents puffing away for hours and hours and I don't know of one person that I knew that is currently my age that has been killed by the demon second hand smoke. Some have died, but not from smoke related problems. OK, so you folks won, I generally think that it is a good thing. What bothers me is how people have no concern about how difficult it is for those that haven't been able to quit yet. I don't suppose that considering the way the world is today that should surprise me though.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Please dont get this thread moved to politics section lol, it's about theme parks...not smoking we have covered that plenty. Also, does anyone even smoke in Star Wars other than Yoda, I think?(even that I cant remember for sure)

 

[zurj]

Please dont get this thread moved to politics section lol, it's about theme parks...not smoking we have covered that plenty. Also, does anyone even smoke in Star Wars other than Yoda, I think?(even that I cant remember for sure)

Yoda smoked Camel Lights. Darth Vader smoked Newports, but Palpadine made him quit when he accidentally started a fire in one of the trash compactors.

 

[zurj]

Yoda smoked Camel Lights. Darth Vader smoked Newports, but Palpadine made him quit when he accidentally started a fire in one of the trash compactors.

That's the real reason Vader was mad enough to kill him at the end. A lot of people don't know that

 

[Club Cooloholic]

That's the real reason Vader was mad enough to kill him at the end. A lot of people don't know that

Actually wasn't Yoda...was this guy

 

[Chef Mickey]

Again, you are creating this overwhelming majority scenario. Perhaps, majority, but I truly question the overwhelming part. I know why it is happening, but please, there is quite a difference between restaurants and hotel rooms when compared to open outdoor areas. So many people my age were constantly bombarded with smoke everywhere. In the 50's everybody smoked including people that were hospitalized, in fact the hospitals sold cigarettes to them. In 1977, I had my wisdom teeth removed and had to stay overnight. I had slept all day during the procedure and was wide awake all night walking the halls of the hospital smoking. We lived in homes and rode in closed cars with parents puffing away for hours and hours and I don't know of one person that I knew that is currently my age that has been killed by the demon second hand smoke. Some have died, but not from smoke related problems. OK, so you folks won, I generally think that it is a good thing. What bothers me is how people have no concern about how difficult it is for those that haven't been able to quit yet. I don't suppose that considering the way the world is today that should surprise me though.

Perhaps majority?

 

[SJN1279]

I was very disappointed by the Hogsmeade area at Universal. It's tiny and has very little in it -- and I think they made a huge mistake putting the ride inside Hogwarts. I know people absolutely love the ride (I hated it because it gave me the worst motion sickness I've ever had, even after taking a Dramamine -- I thought I was going to throw up for a good 30-45 minutes afterwards, and it also hurt my GF's neck), but they could have put it somewhere else or designed the area differently. It was a seriously missed opportunity to not have a bigger Hogwarts you could explore, visiting the different classrooms, having a restaurant in the Great Hall, etc.

Diagon Alley, on the other hand, is tremendous. The way it's completely hidden from anywhere else in the park and that you have to go through a little alley and then it opens up in front of you is just wonderful.

Me too, the motion sickness from Forbidden Journey is the worst I have ever experienced.

 

[SJN1279]

I was very disappointed by the Hogsmeade area at Universal. It's tiny and has very little in it -- and I think they made a huge mistake putting the ride inside Hogwarts. I know people absolutely love the ride (I hated it because it gave me the worst motion sickness I've ever had, even after taking a Dramamine -- I thought I was going to throw up for a good 30-45 minutes afterwards, and it also hurt my GF's neck), but they could have put it somewhere else or designed the area differently. It was a seriously missed opportunity to not have a bigger Hogwarts you could explore, visiting the different classrooms, having a restaurant in the Great Hall, etc.

Diagon Alley, on the other hand, is tremendous. The way it's completely hidden from anywhere else in the park and that you have to go through a little alley and then it opens up in front of you is just wonderful.

and Gringotts is way more fun than Forbidden Journey, and way less sickening.

 

[HongKongFu]

Forbidden Journey is not fun, borders on miserable. I refuse to ride again.
It's a physically uncomfortable experience being jerked around like that.
The screen portion of the ride is abominable due to a blurry and disjunct execution.
The 3D sets do not hide the mechanics enough and thus just don't convince; I'm looking at you, dementors. Can you say "bird -on- a-stick" Universal style.

But the Hogswarts castle and its queue is a masterpiece so I have been walking the line and then exiting before the ride.

 

[UNCgolf]

But the Hogswarts castle and its queue is a masterpiece so I have been walking the line and then exiting before the ride.

The queue is really good, but that's exactly why I think it's a missed opportunity. It only showcases a few areas from Hogwarts; they could have built a bigger area that offered far more. The Great Hall would have been a perfect location for a quick service restaurant, just as one example -- people would have loved to just sit in there regardless of the food quality (and Universal's food quality is ATROCIOUS outside of CityWalk; the stuff in the parks is basically inedible).

I think they weren't sure how successful it would be and thus built what they built rather than put together the resources to build anything larger. I'm sure that if they could do it all over again, they'd like to build a giant Hogwarts area like Diagon Alley, but they're basically hamstrung by what's already there.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

While I think that Star Wars Land will be very popular, I still think it will fall short of the Wizarding World at Uni, if for no other reason it is not grounded in any place related to the movies. The WW shops and restaurants as well as the streets all tie directly to the Harry Potter movies and provides an instant connection with the place. Not sure SWL is gonna be able to replicate that feeling. It's just the advantage the Harry Potter movies give it by being mainly centered around a few locals throughout 6 movies vs. Star Wars which is all over the place.
It was an advantage for it too in why it tops Pandora IMO, Pandora is great looking but I dont go craving to try any Pandorian food or buy Pandorian things..in fact restaurants and shops make no sense there in the context of the movie, it isn't organic.

8 Harry Potter films actually and 2 spin off films

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Just looking at Florida it's hard to compare. By the end of the year you'll have 5 rides in Wizarding World vs 2 at Galaxy's Edge, but will we consider Fantastic Beasts at Epic Universe a part of Wizarding World when it's done? And what if Disney does add a 3rd ride or 2nd land by then to Star Wars?

The one thing Wizarding World has that Star Wars never will is the chance to open and expand first, unless you count Star Tours. It's always going to be compared to the bar it set.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Perhaps majority?

That means that it's likely the majority not that I'm doubting it is a majority just not overwhelming, just louder. I smoked for years and I managed after many, many tries to finally quit. I know the direct danger of smoking, my concern is the absolute callousness of those that feel that even if they have to make up a problem they are hell bent on getting their own way regardless of the pain of withdrawal it causes others. What's done is done, but, some of what has been done is completely unnecessary. Having been a smoker I can tell you that the more people fight them the more determined smokers are to tell you to shove it where the sun don't shine. Maybe just a little human compassion like we show for people with other addictions should be part of basic human nature and response.

 

[General Mayhem]

Wizarding World works because they are based on things people actually like about the Harry Potter franchise. Galaxy's Edge is failing to connect with audiences because it's "Just kind of Star Wars and not actually Star Wars." With the exception of the Millennium Falcon there is nothing there for fans of classic Star Wars, or even modern Star Wars for that matter. What is the point of making a Star Wars land if it's a place no one cares about or knows? "Making your own adventure" sounds like a nice excuse people are trying to give, but that's not what the fans want. Fans do not care about roleplaying in some unknown location that has no emotional or relevant ties to what they care about in the franchise. Especially when the franchise had a massive amount of inspired locations they could have pulled from. GE is failing in California big time, and while I have no doubt Florida's will do better I think it's going to disappoint a lot of fans, and not remain a busy location for long.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Again, you are creating this overwhelming majority scenario. Perhaps, majority, but I truly question the overwhelming part. I know why it is happening, but please, there is quite a difference between restaurants and hotel rooms when compared to open outdoor areas. So many people my age were constantly bombarded with smoke everywhere. In the 50's everybody smoked including people that were hospitalized, in fact the hospitals sold cigarettes to them. In 1977, I had my wisdom teeth removed and had to stay overnight. I had slept all day during the procedure and was wide awake all night walking the halls of the hospital smoking. We lived in homes and rode in closed cars with parents puffing away for hours and hours and I don't know of one person that I knew that is currently my age that has been killed by the demon second hand smoke. Some have died, but not from smoke related problems. OK, so you folks won, I generally think that it is a good thing. What bothers me is how people have no concern about how difficult it is for those that haven't been able to quit yet. I don't suppose that considering the way the world is today that should surprise me though.

Health problems related to second hand smoke are in fact a real thing, and the fact that you claim to not personally know anyone who has been bothered by it doesn’t change that.

And you’re correct, I have zero concern for people who still smoke. It’s their choice and if they want to voluntarily speed up their decline they are free to do so. As long as they do so in a manner where people who have the equal right to be free of smoke don’t have to inhale their second hand smoke.

Okay, now let’s return to the topic started in this thread, lol!

 

[Kingoglow]

It depends on what you are into. Sounds like you are a Potter fan. I don't give to cents for Harry or JK Rawling (or her politics). I find those movies boring and definitely not exciting. I have no desire to visit Potter Land or walk around in dirty looking back alleys. So again, it is just about what you are into...

I wrote this in another thread but thought to post it here since the debate on which is better (successful) will happen here:
While I am not a fan of the current SW Trilogy, I can't help but think that WDW SEGE can be nothing less than a success. It will succeed because they have family trapped in the bubble year round. Most families are visiting each park once; Disney even sells their special ticket discounts to promote this behavior.

Just like these families were planning their entire day at DHS before TSL opened (While we were arguing that it was a half day park), families will continue this pattern. Each park at least once. Try to explore SWGE because the internet tells them to. Buy Blue Milk because Instagramers tell them to. Buy their kid a lightsaber because the mom that lives down the street did for her kid. It is the same behavior pattern that we see across property.

WDW SWGE can be nothing but a success with a trapped audience, biting on all of the lures that Disney lays out for them. It won't matter how the ST is viewed by the public. People will go because they are in Florida, in WDW and in DHS on at least one day of their trip. You will not see the ghost town that we have seen at the West coast property.

 

[Kingoglow]

Conjecture, but smoking has become a completely taboo habit that shouldn’t be around kids anyway. I don’t wish there were smoking areas at restaurants or hotels rooms, so I don’t think additional smoking “areas” at Disney benefit the overwhelming majority that want no smoking.

It would be far better to enforce a no smoking policy and perhaps have one smoking area in an annex.

This is opinion.
Reminds my of that woman who wanted to ban childless adults from WDW. Just because you think that it would make your life easier doesn't mean that your opinion hold merit.

 

[Jon81uk]

One issue with Galaxy's Edge is that some spaces have too much space ready for huge crowds and other areas can't cope with the people who are coming.

At Diagon Alley, the walkways are all the sort of size you expect them to be and yet they built multiple "hidden" wand shops to cope with demand.