News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[MaximumEd]

"Ride exists through gift shop" isn't as common recently as some people think.

True. Now, it’s “ride exists because of gift shop.”

 

[Monorail_Red_77]

Is that houses of golden oak in the background ??

No, That is housing to the north behind Magic Kingdom and to the west of CM Parking (West Clock). Windermere Cay Luxury Apartments. Right next door to property. Actually sandwiched between WDW Property like a Peninsula. WDW Property is on the left, right and bottom of their property.

This might make a little more sense, the apartments shown in red.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You’re both kind of right.

I’ll cue the broken record, because even though @marni1971 and I have said this many times, it’s helpful to remember why FP+ exists. Before Uni built Potter, Disney believed the theme park market had topped out. They decided they owned the market, focused on selling DVC, and comfortably settled into what they called a “Blue Ocean” strategy of cost-cutting and minimal maintenance (even though that’s not what a Blue Ocean business plan actually means).

Fastplus + and its overall NextGen system were concocted as ways to spread existing crowds to existing attractions, in hopes Disney wouldn’t have to build anything new. You don’t have to take my word for it: execs announced the strategy at shareholder meetings. Iger shilled MagicBands as a new source of income, saying the company expected merch sales to increase as guests mindlessly tapped their bracelets without paying attention to how much they were spending. Again, this is on record.

That’s why FP+ and MagicBands exist. There’s no bigger reason for magic, pixie dust, improved guest experience, or any other claims the Mommy Bloggers ate up from Disney’s marketing spin rooms.

Unfortunately, Disney changed its operating procedures to exploit FP+ reservations, and often runs attractions at sub-optimal levels to artificially create long queues that the day’s attendance should not demand. This is why you can go to the MK on a slow day and still stand in 45-minute lines.

The experiment was also a failure, and the system was never expanded to the other worldwide resorts as originally planned.

Fortunately for us fans, the crowds did not disperse, attendance actually rose, and Uni built Potter! Now we have New FL and Pandora, with many more investments to come — including Tron.

This is one of the greatest posts ever on this or any Disney board. Well done.

On the tron thing...is this a vekoma? Intamin?

Track reminds of a vekoma. I’m too lazy to search for it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

True. Now, it’s “ride exists because of gift shop.”

The gift shop dump is not nearly as high of a priority as if once was. The priorities on pricing and a decline in brick and mortar retail will continue that trend. Just my take

 

[EricsBiscuit]

From yesterday

 

[DHSCM]

No, That is housing to the north behind Magic Kingdom and to the west of CM Parking (West Clock). Windermere Cay Luxury Apartments. Right next door to property. Actually sandwiched between WDW Property like a Peninsula. WDW Property is on the left, right and bottom of their property.

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This might make a little more sense, the apartments shown in red.
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place sucks to live in as well. i never renewed and a bunch of other people think the same thing.. just look up reveiws for the place

 

[No Name]

I'm sorry I said about the shops in the exit of Tron I was thinking some thing else forgive me!

No need to apologize! There’s absolutely nothing wrong with what you said.

 

[justintheharris]

place sucks to live in as well. i never renewed and a bunch of other people think the same thing.. just look up reveiws for the place

Most cast who live there work in magic kingdom.

 

[Coaster Lover]

On the tron thing...is this a vekoma? Intamin?

Track reminds of a vekoma. I’m too lazy to search for it.

Vekoma... it's interesting. With the exception of junior suspended coasters, North America has mostly given up on Vekoma coasters since Hard Rock Park... that is if you look at parks outside of Disney. Excluding Disney parks, the last major Vekoma coasters built new (not relocated) in the US were built in 2008. However, since 2008, WDW built (or is building) four coasters, three of which are Vekoma and when you look at all of the coasters at WDW built (or under construction) in the past twenty years, (counting Primeval Whirl as one coaster), 71% are Vekoma... but you really can't complain because all of the Vekoma's at Disney all run really well (i.e. smooth).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Vekoma... it's interesting. With the exception of junior suspended coasters, North America has mostly given up on Vekoma coasters since Hard Rock Park... that is if you look at parks outside of Disney. Excluding Disney parks, the last major Vekoma coasters built new (not relocated) in the US were built in 2008. However, since 2008, WDW built (or is building) four coasters, three of which are Vekoma and when you look at all of the coasters at WDW built (or under construction) in the past twenty years, (counting Primeval Whirl as one coaster), 71% are Vekoma... but you really can't complain because all of the Vekoma's at Disney all run really well (i.e. smooth).

Vekoma are ROUGH by today’s standards...though they were more “smooth” in the 90’s renaissance.

It pains me to see that Disney would never pay B&M to do an elaborately themed project...I think WDI and B&M could have benefitted greatly through collaboration.

Also...remember that vekoma are known for “compact” layouts.
Disney’s design requirements are always curious. They won’t build a full size rollercoaster and theme it. But they’ll build fake avatar mountains 100 feet up you can’t see and spend 3 years computer generating sandblasted rock work for a made up Star Wars planet gift shop facade that nobody cares about.

Need to be less “imagine” and a little more “eering” - just my opinion

 

[KBLovedDisney]

Vekoma are ROUGH by today’s standards...though they were more “smooth” in the 90’s renaissance.

It pains me to see that Disney would never pay B&M to do an elaborately themed project...I think WDI and B&M could have benefitted greatly through collaboration.

Nighthawk at Carowinds is Vekoma...and man it has seen much better days.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Nighthawk at Carowinds is Vekoma...and man it has seen much better days.

RnR is by far the most smooth vekoma with elements I’ve ever been on....and I’ve been on a lot

Is the Shanghai version vekoma? Just curious @Coaster Lover

 

[larryz]

Vekoma are ROUGH by today’s standards...though they were more “smooth” in the 90’s renaissance.

It pains me to see that Disney would never pay B&M to do an elaborately themed project...I think WDI and B&M could have benefitted greatly through collaboration.

I think B&Ms are just too noisy for the WDW park environments. It's that box track support beam... amplifies the noise of the train on the track.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think B&Ms are just too noisy for the WDW park environments. It's that box track support beam... amplifies the noise of the train on the track.

It does...but I bet if you had deep pockets and a building full of bored engineers with top of the line design and fabrication tools...you could work with B&M and design something new?

 

[KBLovedDisney]

It does...but I bet if you had deep pockets and a building full of bored engineers with top of the line design and fabrication tools...you could work with B&M and design something new?

They could always replicate Fury 325 for Tron...

Probably not, but that would be awesome to have that kind of thrill level at a Disney park.

 

[Kman101]

Still looks more professional than the new Hollywood Studios logo...

Wonder when are we getting that monstrosity in the park? At least I liked the new paint scheme on the studio entrance that will display the logo ...

But anyway, back to TRON ...

I can only hope the Speedway overhaul wasn't budget cut. The speedway is so basic, the cars stink ... I know people love it but man, they could do SO much better with the Speedway. Just look at Disneyland's and even Hong Kong's. And even Tokyo realized how poor it was so they got rid of it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Vekoma are ROUGH by today’s standards...though they were more “smooth” in the 90’s renaissance

Old Vekoma’s are rough. The track design introduced with Expedition Everest, and since improved, is significantly better.

Is the Shanghai version vekoma? Just curious

Yes.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Wonder when are we getting that monstrosity in the park? At least I liked the new paint scheme on the studio entrance that will display the logo ...

But anyway, back to TRON ...

I can only hope the Speedway overhaul wasn't budget cut. The speedway is so basic, the cars stink ... I know people love it but man, they could do SO much better with the Speedway. Just look at Disneyland's and even Hong Kong's. And even Tokyo realized how poor it was so they got rid of it.

The speedway is beyond outdated. I like “classic” amusements with history more than anyone (kennywood born and bred)...but that thing has to go. It’s retained purely for the 1861 crowd - I’ve always felt - so they let it sit.

That space could be used for 2 solid new attractions...which are desperately needed

 

[Kman101]

That space could be used for 2 solid new attractions...which are desperately needed

THIS! Very very true. It's a waste of space at this point as it currently stands. If they had put any amount of effort into the theming, maybe I'd feel differently. If they desperately want a race track, put one behind Test Track

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Old Vekoma’s are rough. The track design introduced with Expedition Everest, and since improved, is significantly better.


Yes.

In 1995 a vekoma was a treat...

But you had to bring Everest into it huh?
Everest...doesn’t really DO anything. It’s tame before it’s years. A 95 foot dip and some
Helix are not hard elements to master.

Oh...bout 1000 feet of switchback...guess that’s cool too