The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Cesar R M

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Part 7:

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Our guide and former miner, explaining the machinery used to pull the small elevators to move the miners up and down in the shafts as well as the tools used, and the warning sound signals. Also explained security.

Our first step was the "equipment" room. Where the former miners (still the same building) dressed up , changed, got their equipment and security gear and also showered to get in and out of the mines.

Each of us got our own helmet (no light, we used our cellphones, the guide had high powered hand torch)
And then we got into the "breathing" tunnel, used as drainage, ore removal and of course.. to let oxygen in.

The tunnel is almost 200 to 400 meters straight into the mine (this part wasnt clear, not sure if the tunnel is 400 meters long, which I dont think so.. or because we were 400 meters BELOW the mountain top where the main entrance to the mine was)

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Our group.
There was light in the mine every 15 or more meters. SO it wasnt pitch dark.

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The 25 meter mark. With equipment, tools, etc..

There were also graphics, old photos and stories where the guide explained the perils, dangers, tools, abuse, etc.. the miners experienced during their lifetime.
Also how every man had a job inside. From miners, to carry guys and even "poop" removal guys. Who had the terrible job of hauling what the miners did away from the tunnels.

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There were a lot of side tunnels too. The mine is pretty big. Not so sure about this but I think the 800 meter mark is the farthest this mine goes downwards (with many meters longer in length)

Note this mine had been in operation from 1727 up to 1985 when it closed down. So it had a long life.
All the equipment has been maintained as it was left after its closure.

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This is the interesting part, this area is pitch dark.. But shows a big round hole downwards where a giant ventilation fan was (now corroded) and most of the lower tunnel is flooded by a small amount of water (you can see the sand below the water just fine)
It also had the main elevator for the miners. The elevator of course was heavily damaged by corrosion, as water runs from the top constantly down the tunnels.


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continuing on part 8.
 

Pixieish

Well-Known Member
Part 7:

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Our guide and former miner, explaining the machinery used to pull the small elevators to move the miners up and down in the shafts as well as the tools used, and the warning sound signals. Also explained security.

Our first step was the "equipment" room. Where the former miners (still the same building) dressed up , changed, got their equipment and security gear and also showered to get in and out of the mines.

Each of us got our own helmet (no light, we used our cellphones, the guide had high powered hand torch)
And then we got into the "breathing" tunnel, used as drainage, ore removal and of course.. to let oxygen in.

The tunnel is almost 200 to 400 meters straight into the mine (this part wasnt clear, not sure if the tunnel is 400 meters long, which I dont think so.. or because we were 400 meters BELOW the mountain top where the main entrance to the mine was)

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Our group.
There was light in the mine every 15 or more meters. SO it wasnt pitch dark.

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The 25 meter mark. With equipment, tools, etc..

There were also graphics, old photos and stories where the guide explained the perils, dangers, tools, abuse, etc.. the miners experienced during their lifetime.
Also how every man had a job inside. From miners, to carry guys and even "poop" removal guys. Who had the terrible job of hauling what the miners did away from the tunnels.

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There were a lot of side tunnels too. The mine is pretty big. Not so sure about this but I think the 800 meter mark is the farthest this mine goes downwards (with many meters longer in length)

Note this mine had been in operation from 1727 up to 1985 when it closed down. So it had a long life.
All the equipment has been maintained as it was left after its closure.

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This is the interesting part, this area is pitch dark.. But shows a big round hole downwards where a giant ventilation fan was (now corroded) and most of the lower tunnel is flooded by a small amount of water (you can see the sand below the water just fine)
It also had the main elevator for the miners. The elevator of course was heavily damaged by corrosion, as water runs from the top constantly down the tunnels.


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continuing on part 8.
Interesting stuff! I watched a documentary about mining the other day and if I recall correctly that looks like a one-man operated drill? There was a big hubbub and a strike about those in the doc I was watching.
 

Cesar R M

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Part 8

After tipping our guide and going our way, We moved towards REAL DEL MONTE.
Which is a town that is surrounded by mines everywhere.

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Infact, the rich owner of most of these mines.. filled the town's bottom with tunnels so he could travel to his mines straight from his mansion.
All mines are connected to his former house. There used to be tours as well, but sadly some of the tunnels collapsed and flooding also damaged certain extensions, leaving these unpassable.
They still remain.. hidden from the plain view.

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There are also some interesting facts about this town.

There was a divide inside, because half the groups were spanish and followed catholic teachings.
the other side were english miners and their families, who followed the lutheran teachings.

The main church is an interesting merge between the two. With one tower with the classic bell of spanish inspiration. And the other side with a plain unpainted rock tower with a clock of english design.

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That chimney is from one of the many mines. If you see a tall chimney.. There is a mine nearby.

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The church with the two towers.

Viewed from the "La vista" point. That overlooks the town.
This vista also leads to the Panteon Ingles (a graveyard exclusive for English citizens who died in Mexico and their families. Only foreingers who were interred there was a mexican who took care of the graveyard for 20+ years until his death. The Queen herself gave the permission to let him be buried in there. Also a few others who had lived or married with English citizens)

We had a small tour in these touristic double decker trucks. Sadly it was SOOO COLD that noone ventured in the second floor lol.
The wind had speed up as well and clouds filled the Valley.

Interesting point is, because the mountain as a V shape that leads into this town and then opens again towards the town of Pachuca. This makes a huge effect to accelerate Wind Speeds.


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Taken form the opposite side.


Note that one of the last "parts" we viewed quickly while on the Bus, was one of the "deepest" mines.
It used to have tours while it was still an active mine.
Unfortunately the modern but extremely heavy elevator they used, failed. Plungetting 500 meters with a full compliment of miners (50+) killing almost everyone but a few, who were cushioned by the corpses of their friends and coworkers). They closed the mine afterwards.. forever..


Another thing was.. because of the hours we had, and because it was not weekend... Most things closed right after 5. So after the Bus tour, everything that was not a restaurant or similar... was closed down.
We unfortunately didnt see the famous PASTES factory. (small rounded pies with meat, a food by and for miners brought by the English and mixed with Mexican spices) These look like your every day "Empanada". But with crispier, thinner and crunchier breading compared to normal empanadas.

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Image not taken by me.. But this is a "PASTES".

Continuing later on part 9.
 

Go.Nijntje

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Well, I have been in denial for two days, but it is time to face the facts...

I sprained my ankle.

And guess what I was doing? Walking down the steps.

I thought it was just wrenched and I could deal with it, but then yesterday I decided to put a brace on it, and I examined it today and it was bruised and swollen. So now I'm on the brace. The small one. I'm not doing the big, goofy, immobilizing thing.

I wanted to go ice skating on Saturday but clearly that is not happening now :grumpy:
What bad luck! I hope it heals soon.
 

Cesar R M

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Interesting stuff! I watched a documentary about mining the other day and if I recall correctly that looks like a one-man operated drill? There was a big hubbub and a strike about those in the doc I was watching.
That drill is actually huge (the yellow one), longer than 1 meter and half. it required I think 3 persons to operate and a small "tripod" for support.
 

93boomer

Premium Member
Well, I have been in denial for two days, but it is time to face the facts...

I sprained my ankle.

And guess what I was doing? Walking down the steps.

I thought it was just wrenched and I could deal with it, but then yesterday I decided to put a brace on it, and I examined it today and it was bruised and swollen. So now I'm on the brace. The small one. I'm not doing the big, goofy, immobilizing thing.

I wanted to go ice skating on Saturday but clearly that is not happening now :grumpy:
Oh no! Keep it elevated as much as you can and stay off it. I sprained my ankle years ago and did this and was fine in a few days. Hope you heal really quick! ;)
 

Pixieish

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That drill is actually huge (the yellow one), longer than 1 meter and half. it required I think 3 persons to operate and a small "tripod" for support.
WHOA!! Good - because the big concern with the one-man drills was that instead of working as teams, the miners would have had to work alone in the dark. (by candlelight of all things!) I'm really loving all your pics and descriptions - that church is fascinating!
 

Cesar R M

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WHOA!! Good - because the big concern with the one-man drills was that instead of working as teams, the miners would have had to work alone in the dark. (by candlelight of all things!) I'm really loving all your pics and descriptions - that church is fascinating!
Well, by the time these drills were used. They had electricity and most probably electrical light.

The English are the ones who tried to bring most of the technological advances to mining to Mexico.
 

MySmallWorldof4

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Monday doesn't feel like Monday after working the weekend. It snowed overnight and I am pretty tired of working all the time but I got cheered up with some Mickey email this morning. It is 45 days till my first park day so Mickey mailed me to remind me of all the fun things I can already book.
Nothing I didn't know already but still fun to get. :)
That news will brighten anyone's day.:)
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Lots of days are cookie days. ;)
I just ate an Oreo.:):hungry:
 

MySmallWorldof4

Well-Known Member
Well, I have been in denial for two days, but it is time to face the facts...

I sprained my ankle.

And guess what I was doing? Walking down the steps.

I thought it was just wrenched and I could deal with it, but then yesterday I decided to put a brace on it, and I examined it today and it was bruised and swollen. So now I'm on the brace. The small one. I'm not doing the big, goofy, immobilizing thing.

I wanted to go ice skating on Saturday but clearly that is not happening now :grumpy:
You've had a bit of rough few weeks.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
Well, I have been in denial for two days, but it is time to face the facts...

I sprained my ankle.

And guess what I was doing? Walking down the steps.

I thought it was just wrenched and I could deal with it, but then yesterday I decided to put a brace on it, and I examined it today and it was bruised and swollen. So now I'm on the brace. The small one. I'm not doing the big, goofy, immobilizing thing.

I wanted to go ice skating on Saturday but clearly that is not happening now :grumpy:

Good grief, not again!! Your ankles have quite the history---sorry.to hear it's happened again I think you must have weak ankles. Once the ankle heals, it's actually a good idea go to skating--it's good to strengthen the ankle muscles.
 

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