Hurricane Irma

[disneygeek90]

I'm obviously not going to F&W now. And most likely switching my post cruise trip to KW instead..60 odd days away..hoping we can still help with something then. So at least you'll have a few more people missing from the parks on those days.

Disney appears to have handled Irma flawlessly, gave reduced prices 40% off to extend hotel stay if flights were cancelled, and let people carry over their tickets to use for those days. Plus kept everyone entertained while the parks were closed.. I am glad for all who were there and were treated so well. Solidifies the many reasons to love them.

From what I can tell at the parks, everything is back to normal and the guests that did stay seem to be happy with how it turned out. When were you scheduled to come to WDW?

 

[Beacon Joe]

Digging up a topic discussed earlier in this thread... how did the Food & Wine booths fare?

 

[21stamps]

From what I can tell at the parks, everything is back to normal and the guests that did stay seem to be happy with how it turned out. When were you scheduled to come to WDW?

Our family cruise is the week of Thanksgiving, checking in to WDW the Sunday after.

F&W was an adults only girls trip with my SoFla girlfriends. One of them is still stranded, no word yet on when she can return. None of us are in the mood for Disney while that is going on.

Looks like my annual pass will expire with only getting one use out of it. Oh well. Disney will be there.

 

[disneygeek90]

Digging up a topic discussed earlier in this thread... how did the Food & Wine booths fare?

They are all fine. On Tuesday the country signs were all still down, as they were on Friday. All are operational. They must be sturdier and heavier than they look.

 

[DisAl]

I don't think he was saying that the Civil War had an impact on this, but what technologies were available back then to track a storm?

Ship's logbooks.
At least from the ships that were not sunk...

 

[Kylo Ken]

Digging up a topic discussed earlier in this thread... how did the Food & Wine booths fare?

I went over to Epcot on Tuesday and from what I saw, the booths made it unscathed. A few damaged signs here and there. Most of the park seemed to have made it through without any significant damage. A few downed trees here and there but overall, made it through. It was amazing to see all of the power trucks in the parking lot ready to pitch in and help.

On a side note, Choza is still there and unopened

 

[Raineman]

I haven't heard anything about any damage done to SW:GE and TSL at DHS, so I am assuming that there was very little to no damage from Irma. It was probably a good thing that most of the structures in both areas are still mostly bare steel, allowing the wind to pass through. If the structures were fully built, with walls, signs, etc, they would catch the wind alot more than steel beams.

 

[networkpro]

I don't think he was saying that the Civil War had an impact on this, but what technologies were available back then to track a storm?

Landfalls and ship reports

 

[tribbleorlfl]

And...there went my power. Last post for a while, see you on the other side, folks.

Finally got my power back. What did I miss?

 

[JohnD]

Update: I-75 likely to remain open: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/weath...ue-to-flooding-detour-map-available/474403835

 

[lazyboy97o]

I don't think he was saying that the Civil War had an impact on this, but what technologies were available back then to track a storm?

Shipping has long relied on observational data. Anemometers and barometers have existed for centuries while charting longitude and latitude are ancient. What technology did they have in 1935? The 1935 Labor Day Hurricane predates flying into hurricanes, radar and satellites but there were still evacuations out of the Keys because the storm was known.

 

[Jay & Sue]

I've contemplated it a few times but not since I moved into this house 2 years ago. I will have to do the math on the full ROI (independent of environmental benefit) for an appropriate installation. Not to mention all the hassles I'll go through to get the HOA to approve it. There are a lot of issues with the layout of the house relative to adjacent houses that have to be validated since I have no south facing roof surface. As a result, it's unclear how many hours of effective production over the course of the entire calendar year I would get from a system. It's never as simple as it appears on the surface.

From what I have heard the HOA, by law, can not stop you from installing solar. The HOA can't stop you from having a satellite dish either.

 

[DisneyCane]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/ Their data goes back to 1851.

Considering that weather is especially important for any shipping and shipping has for a long, long time been an important industry where there was a lot of money to be made, I don't think they stopped tracking weather during the civil war.

I get that. I just don't know how they could have exact tracks back then. Some storms weren't in shipping lanes so they wouldn't even know they existed.

 

[Bolna]

I get that. I just don't know how they could have exact tracks back then. Some storms weren't in shipping lanes so they wouldn't even know they existed.

Considering the U.S. National Hurricane Center, which is considered the world wide authority on hurricanes, publishes those tracks from 1851 on, I am pretty sure they are confident that there data is accurate.

Also, all those Caribbean islands were once important colonies for European countries. Of course there was an interest to know the weather around them. So, using all the weather data from the French, the British, the Dutch, the Danish etc., I guess you can come up with a fairly accurate idea of where a hurricane was.

 

[bclane]

I get that. I just don't know how they could have exact tracks back then. Some storms weren't in shipping lanes so they wouldn't even know they existed.

They wouldn't have exact tracks but they might have a fairly intact history of landfalls to populated areas and could simulate a track from that. Of course I have no idea what I'm talking about other than what would make logical sense based on the time period. Lol!

 

[lazyboy97o]

They wouldn't have exact tracks but they might have a fairly intact history of landfalls to populated areas and could simulate a track from that. Of course I have no idea what I'm talking about other than what would make logical sense based on the time period. Lol!

Ships would encounter the storms at sea and log that information.

 

[21stamps]

I get that. I just don't know how they could have exact tracks back then. Some storms weren't in shipping lanes so they wouldn't even know they existed.

This is a really interesting article about the Labor Day hurricane if you have time to read it.
A humongous mistake was made.
Thankfully we have more accurate data and better communications now.


http://relay.nationalgeographic.com...t-intense-hurricane-florida-keys-1935-history

Veterans were dying as the work camps disintegrated. They were speared by flying lumber, brained by coconuts flying nearly 200 miles per hour, or simply blown off the islands to who knows where. When it was over, more than half of the 400 or so men in the camps were dead. Counting the natives, at least 408 were killed in the storm—almost half the people living between Key West and Miami.

 

[kpilcher]

This is becoming a big story, particularly for evacuees wanting to return home. I-75 could be closed any minute north of Alachua due to the Santa Fe River flooding: http://www.tallahassee.com/story/ne...erstate-catches-residents-surprise/662841001/



Middleburg is essentially rural, suburban Jacksonville, within an hour's drive of downtown, for those unfamiliar with Florida. We looked at a house on Black Creek way back when, but in retrospect we're happy we didn't purchase it - The Mom.

The stretch of 75 in the article is a good hours drive from either coast. This flooding is all taking place on rivers and tributaries.

The good news: FHP says the waters are now receding. There should be no reason to shut down I-75, barring some other major water event.

 

[Beacon Joe]

They are all fine. On Tuesday the country signs were all still down, as they were on Friday. All are operational. They must be sturdier and heavier than they look.

That's pretty impressive.

 

[5thGenTexan]

I'd like to know how they tracked the full path of tropical cyclones during the civil war. Whoever put this together can't possibly have accurate info going back that far. The Pacific I believe.

Here is more information from 2010 that tells more about the database. Ethan Gibney with NOAA created the map.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/tropical-cyclone-tracks