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Guardians Tower announcement Saturday in SD ...

Disone

Disone

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TP2000 said:
.... but the one part of this that I think will be weird is the Red Car Trolley passing directly in front of the redone building. Not sure how that will mesh or work. And I think it's that juxtaposition that shows just how unfortunate this concept would be for DHS!

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My guess is these new trolleys are doomed. How will this photo even make sense when that hotel becomes a warehouse / Fortress / power plant sci-fi thing? I guess it could be chalked up to being similar to having a horse drawn street car in front of a medieval castle, but I still think the trolleys are doomed. They will probably become staged on Buena Vista Street and possibly converted into merchandise opportunities. :(

If that happens, and I think it will, I will miss them and the Newies too. Although I much prefer the Newsies original show to the one they're showing now.
 
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Variable

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Disone said:
My guess is these new trolleys are doomed. How will this photo even make sense when that hotel becomes a warehouse / Fortress / power plant sci-fi thing? I guess it could be chalked up to being similar to having a horse drawn street car in front of a medieval castle, but I still think the trolleys are doomed. They will probably become staged on Buena Vista Street and possibly converted into merchandise opportunities. :(

If that happens, and I think it will, I will miss them and the Newies too. Although I much prefer the Newsies original show to the one they're showing now.
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A collector can collect many things, from across the universe, through space and time...
 
TP2000

TP2000

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Disone said:
My guess is these new trolleys are doomed. How will this photo even make sense when that hotel becomes a warehouse / Fortress / power plant sci-fi thing? I guess it could be chalked up to being similar to having a horse drawn street car in front of a medieval castle, but I still think the trolleys are doomed. They will probably become staged on Buena Vista Street and possibly converted into merchandise opportunities. :(

If that happens, and I think it will, I will miss them and the Newies too. Although I much prefer the Newsies original show to the one they're showing now.
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The four year old trolleys are safe, they aren't going away. Their pass by the Tower is less than 10% of their route. They already pass by a half dozen other lands and structures that have nothing to do with 1930's Hollywood.

My point was that Tower of Terror at DCA can't really be seen and does little to intrude on most themed areas of DCA, it was just that short street build-up visual where it worked nicely with the trolleys. Now that short stretch of streetscape will look more funky Steampunk with the trolleys than 1939 Vintage. It'll be weird but work in DCA, but would be horrible in DHS where Tower visually anchors a much bigger park area.

And the Horse Drawn Streetcars of Walt's Main Street USA don't just pass by a medieval castle, they also pass within yards of an all-plastic house commercial for Monsanto, a towering and fake looking Swiss mountain, an Oregon Trail log fort with Indian teepees out front, and a Polynesian-African Cultural Appropriation Mish-Mash Marquee with elephant tusks and flaming torches and an animatronic barker bird in a straw hat trying to convince you to buy an extra cost ticket to see a show, Presented By United Airlines DC-8 Jet Mainliners.

The horse drawn streetcars traveling around Walt Disney's Central Plaza of 1955-1966 had nothing on 30 yards of Red Car Trolley track passing in front of Mission: BREAKOUT in 2017.
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Donaldfan1934

Donaldfan1934

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Captain Neo said:
Somebody brought up an interesting point that during the DCA overhaul some of the budget went into retheming that area into Hollywoodland to unify the area with the Hollywood Tower Hotel and Red Car Trolley Line and thus connect it back to the California theme of the park. However now by turning that part of the park into a Marvel area they are actually undoing what they spent a decent amount of money retheming just a few years ago! What a waste.
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Ahh, 2012. DCA finally felt like a more unified full day park and DL was actually rumored to be getting an expansion of Frontierland. It was a much simpler time for the resort.:cry:
 
Pam Hates Penguins

Pam Hates Penguins

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Disone said:
My guess is these new trolleys are doomed. How will this photo even make sense when that hotel becomes a warehouse / Fortress / power plant sci-fi thing? I guess it could be chalked up to being similar to having a horse drawn street car in front of a medieval castle, but I still think the trolleys are doomed. They will probably become staged on Buena Vista Street and possibly converted into merchandise opportunities. :(

If that happens, and I think it will, I will miss them and the Newies too. Although I much prefer the Newsies original show to the one they're showing now.
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Here's what it could look like
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TP2000

TP2000

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tirian said:
The fan voices don't matter; DCA's Tower is changing no matter what.
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You are right, and that's because the "fans" will keep buying the product. Don't like it? Stop buying it. But the "fans" never stop.

Now when the average tourist consumer family stops booking vacations to Disneyland or WDW, then they'll reevaluate their business strategy. Until then, they could change Tower of Terror into Hello Kitty Mommy & Me Day Spa if they wanted to, because it's their ride on their property.
 
Disone

Disone

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jproff09 said:
This is something that "most" of us Disney "fans" just don't understand or refuse to acknowledge. A large portion of guests that visit Epcot will never know that there was anything in Norway but Frozen cause they don't care, the same will be true for Breakout.
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I'm not sure I agree. There's a difference between E ticket and iconic. Dinosaur at Animal Kingdom might be E ticket but it is certainly not iconic. Pirates of the Caribbean, haunted mansion, Space Mountain.... Iconic. They are known, they are expected, and they are often the motivating factor as to why someone has booked a trip to Disney. Whether it be to see it for the first time or to see it again. Tower of Terror ranks among Disney's iconic attractions. People will know it used to be there.
 
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JUFL2019

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Disone said:
I'm not sure I agree. There's a difference between E ticket and iconic. Dinosaur at Animal Kingdom might be a ticket but it is certainly not iconic. Pirates of the Caribbean, on a mansion, Space Mountain.... Iconic. They are known, they are expected, and they are often the motivating factor as to why someone has booked a trip to Disney. Whether it be to see it for the first time or to see it again. Tower of Terror ranks among Disney's iconic attractions. People will know it used to be there.
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Tower of Terror is iconic at DHS, at DCA it's just kinda there.
 

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