Simple question: If Flight of Passage is in large part a next generation Soarin' ride, will it make Soarin' obsolete, or at least much less relevant?
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DAK How will Flight of Passage affect Soarin'
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Sage of Time
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Doubt it. Two different parks, two different sets of expectations and two different ride systems, for the most part. Having Test Track's ride system doesn't make SSE's less popular.
invader
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Did Space Ship Earth make Haunted Mansion less relevant? Similar ride system, different stories, different parks, different experiences. Utilizing a similar ride system to tell a different story doesn't make one any less than the other. Simply put - no, it doesn't make it obsolete or less relevant.
Tom
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I don't think so. They're two different attractions, in two different parks, with two completely different themes.
It would be the same as if they put the fancy, trackless Pooh ride in one WDW park, while leaving the Haunted Mansion. The new ride system is far more advanced than the classic dark ride omnimover, but it certainly wouldn't make the HM less of a desirable attraction.
I don't think more than 20% of the guests will even realize they're slightly similar ride systems. One you board from the ground, one from multiple levels. One has 2 directions of movement and simulates a hang glider. The other has several axis of movement and simulates riding on the back of a Banshee.
They will both cater to their own audiences, which will be comprised of guests who enjoy both attractions.
It would be the same as if they put the fancy, trackless Pooh ride in one WDW park, while leaving the Haunted Mansion. The new ride system is far more advanced than the classic dark ride omnimover, but it certainly wouldn't make the HM less of a desirable attraction.
I don't think more than 20% of the guests will even realize they're slightly similar ride systems. One you board from the ground, one from multiple levels. One has 2 directions of movement and simulates a hang glider. The other has several axis of movement and simulates riding on the back of a Banshee.
They will both cater to their own audiences, which will be comprised of guests who enjoy both attractions.
Same goes for Expedition Everest and Big Thunder, for example.
Not only are Soarin' and Flight of Passage in different parks, they should serve slightly different audiences. Flight seems to be a bit more intense than Soarin'. Soarin' is really for all ages, while Flight will likely preclude the younger/older set. That's one of the reasons the boat ride is necessary to give something for the whole family to do in Avatar, besides just the exploration aspect (which could turn out to be quite entertaining in and of itself).
Incomudro
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Yes, a lot of the people that I hear who really love Soarin' are "older" people.
Not that the young don't love it, but Soarin' has a breezy - gentle quality that older folks (I'll be 52 in a couple of weeks just to ward off barbs
) really seem to like.My guess is that Flight of Passage will be far more intense.
Star Tours level intensity with a Soarin' like ride system.
Plus greatly more realistic visuals.
Hula Popper
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As others have said, the two attractions have different purposes and different themes and the different ride systems (at least according to the Passage rumors) appear to be the right fits for each of the attraction's theme/purpose. So I don't think Passage in and of itself would make Soarin' obsolete or less relevant, at least in the near term. But the advancements in projection technology that have already existed for years now and potential staleness of the content could, so it's good that Disney is upgrading the projectors and film, and providing new content.
I've taken three WDW trips since Soarin' was opened. Fortunately for me, it remained somewhat fresh because the first of those trips was my first Soarin' ride; the second of those trips I was with my oldest daughter for her first Soarin' type ride experience; and the third of those trips, I was with my middle daughter for her first Soarin' type ride experience.
But while I've enjoyed the Soarin' over California, for me personally, the content isn't perpetually classic such as the content in HM, PotC, IASW, Splash, or ToT, such that, after seeing each of my kids experience an attraction like that for the first time, I'd still want to continually make it a priority. I'm looking forward to the new worldwide content to re-freshen the experience.
I've taken three WDW trips since Soarin' was opened. Fortunately for me, it remained somewhat fresh because the first of those trips was my first Soarin' ride; the second of those trips I was with my oldest daughter for her first Soarin' type ride experience; and the third of those trips, I was with my middle daughter for her first Soarin' type ride experience.
But while I've enjoyed the Soarin' over California, for me personally, the content isn't perpetually classic such as the content in HM, PotC, IASW, Splash, or ToT, such that, after seeing each of my kids experience an attraction like that for the first time, I'd still want to continually make it a priority. I'm looking forward to the new worldwide content to re-freshen the experience.
RSoxNo1
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Seeing digital Soarin' Over California at DCA has me far more enthused about Soarin' Over the World and Flight of Passage. The image quality for both should be excellent, but as a differentiator I would expect Flight of Passage to be more thrilling. I have nothing to base it on, but I would expect it to be somewhere between Soarin' and The Simpsons for intensity. It should be a better attraction than both of those and the 3D should really make it interesting.
Figment2005
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Flight of Passage is supposed to be 3-D right? If that is the case, do you think they have some sort of advanced version of what Philharmagic was able to do? I know in Philharmagic, the 3-D is focused towards the middle of the screen, and 2-D is used for the peripheral views, could they have figured out a way to make the 3-D effect encompass the entire screen so that there is no blind spot? That alone could make this attraction a game changer because you would truly feel immersed in the environment. Then, add some props and the transition would be complete. Thoughts?
danlb_2000
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Definitely 3D.
space42
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To add on that thought. Wonder how they are going to pull off 3-d whilst banking / rotating. Standard polarized 3d (all Disney attractions / modern movies) does not work once the viewing angle changes. Try tilting your head next time watching a 3d movie to see what I'm talking about.
Perhaps they will use lcd shutter glasses like the original imax 3d?
Are we 100% sure this is going to be in 3d?
danlb_2000
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The Spiderman ride at Universal does 3d from a moving point of view.
1023
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I would assume you can change the angle of the polarization in concert with the motions of the "ride"....
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doctornick
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I think the other bigger question with FoP (as well as the new Soarin' I guess) is randomization. Will the ride have any element of randomization or will it be the same ride each time? Personally, I think randomization like Star Tours 2.0 makes a massive difference by not only offering different experiences but creating some suspense for frequent riders.
I think it would be cool even if Flight of Passage just had Film A, B or C as options where each one is just an entirely different film (as opposed to scenes that are cut together randomly). That might be the better than random scenes because it could be more fluid throughout but would still provide for some variation and re-ridability.
I think it would be cool even if Flight of Passage just had Film A, B or C as options where each one is just an entirely different film (as opposed to scenes that are cut together randomly). That might be the better than random scenes because it could be more fluid throughout but would still provide for some variation and re-ridability.
The 3D glasses used on Star Tours do not use polarization. They use a color-based technology that isn't impacted by rotation.
Tom
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99.9% sure.