"No expiration" option not available online

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
I was looking at tickets on the new Disneyworld website and noticed that the "no expiration" option was not offered. Thinking this simply was a problem with the new website, I contacted Disney. Disney informed me that they no longer intend to offer the "no expiration" option online. Instead, I would have to call the Disney Reservation Center for this option.

For someone who takes shorter trips to WDW, consider the following scenario:

Three visits of 3, 3, and 4 days spread out over a couple of years.

10-day ticket with the "no expiration" option: $593

3-day, 3-day, and 4-day tickets: $242 + $242 + $256 = $740

AP + 3-day ticket: $574 + $242 = $816

Is this a taste of things to come? Is this the second step? (The first step was in 2012 when Disney increased the price of the "no expiration" option by 22.2% in a single year.) Does Disney intend to completely eliminate the "no expiration" option?

If Disney intends to eliminate the "no expiration" option, I find this trend deeply disturbing. Rather than boosting sales by improving its product, Disney seems intent on eliminating anything that could even remotely be considered a value.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Why don't they just make the ticket not expire.. Let us buy a 10 day ticket and use it when we wanted.. oh the good ol days

Because in the good ol days.. your extra days weren't so heavily discounted vs buying new tickets.

Example: in 1989.. a single day ticket was $29, and a 5 day ticket was $112. You only got a 22% discount for buying 5 days at once vs buying individual days (and really, the discount is less since the 5 day is a parkhopper)

Now.. a single day ticket is $89.. and a 5 day is $269.. a discount of almost 40% over buying individual days.

The pricing model is not just 'days X cost = price' where offering no expiration for free would make sense.. or even offering a discount to buy in bulk. Disney's price model is not offering you a discount to buy bulk days.. they are enticing you to extend your stay.
 
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juniorthomas

Well-Known Member
This is disheartening news. Perhaps I'm just being all nostalgic-like, but I always loved the quiet thrill of knowing that in my wallet I had a guaranteed entry into the park, even without knowing when my next trip would be. Living in the Northeast, these forums are often as close as I'll get to The World.

But that's life. Things change. We adapt. That's what we do.
 
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Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
This is disheartening news. Perhaps I'm just being all nostalgic-like, but I always loved the quiet thrill of knowing that in my wallet I had a guaranteed entry into the park, even without knowing when my next trip would be. Living in the Northeast, these forums are often as close as I'll get to The World.

But that's life. Things change. We adapt. That's what we do.
Things are not really changing.

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...t-available-online.857839/page-2#post-5275870
 
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flynnibus

Premium Member
I have to wonder if this is another hurdle for the third-party ticket sellers to go through.

Why? They can buy their tickets however they want. There isn't a huge volume of 'oh I have a leftover day and I paid for no expiration.. what do I do with my ticket?' people out there. The resellers buy tickets themselves knowing they are going to rent them.
 
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wannabeBelle

Well-Known Member
I used to buy AP's and go two to three times a year. As my daughter got older, school interfered lol, and that stopped being an option. The 10 day non-expiration hopper became my pass of choice. My trips were not shorter, I still went for a week to ten days, but I only went to the parks 3 or 4 days per trip. This allowed me to use the pass for three years. And even though I was not in the parks everyday, I was still spending money on disney hotels for 7-9 nights, disney food, water parks, gifts, DTD, etc...If they eliminate the non-expiration, I am not sure I would continue to go on a yearly basis.
As Master Yoda said, the No Expiration option is NOT Being done away with, you may continue to add it at any Guest Relations location, in accordance with the current rules ( Cant be done on a one day ticket, must be done within 14 days of first use, must be done before all entitlements on the ticket are used, etc) or you may continue to add it to a ticket you are purchasing at a WDW Ticket window or over the phone. So no worries, your plans still can work the same way they always have!!! Enjoy! Marie
 
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IlikeDW

Active Member
As Master Yoda said, the No Expiration option is NOT Being done away with, you may continue to add it at any Guest Relations location, in accordance with the current rules ( Cant be done on a one day ticket, must be done within 14 days of first use, must be done before all entitlements on the ticket are used, etc) or you may continue to add it to a ticket you are purchasing at a WDW Ticket window or over the phone. So no worries, your plans still can work the same way they always have!!! Enjoy! Marie
So if I read this correctly, I could use say 6 days of my 10 day ticket and then go to a ticket window and pay the upcharge on the full 10 day ticket so my remaining 4 days won't expire?
 
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Dagger

Member
The no expiration probably makes them more money than not. Think of how many people lose or misplace the tickets or never make it back. Aren't the tickets treated same as cash and can't be reprinted (Florida resident aside, because I think there is some sort of potential loophole regarding those 4 day $99 passes as my dad was able to get them reprinted to use the remainder.) I bought a no expiration ticket when I was 19 when I lived out of state and never used the rest just being a stupid kid, so that's why I bring it up.

I know that some people can still save money, in theory, by buying at a discounted rate and also presuming prices will always be on the increase, but still I have to bet it makes them more money than they lose. In the long run, even the people that buy the no exp. option still have to come back to utilize it (someday) and buy food, lodging, merchandise, etc....
 
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briandoc

Member

If Master Yoda's explanation is truly the case, then why remove the option from signage at the Ticket Booths?? There the ticketing agent could easily explain to someone that the option is not needed if they were so concerned about people wasting money (LOL to that thought).

They are hiding the option. This can easily translate to a phase out period so that there isn't a run on no-expire tickets for those that want to hoard them or to reduce public backlash to the removal of another cost saving option to pad their bottom line. There has obviously been enough talk about this, enough calls to Disney and they monitor all that is said about their product. So why no official statement? Not some, I know a guy who I swear is in the know about what upper management is planning but not telling us.
 
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