imagineer boy
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^^^ Okay, that sounds better. The trailers are a little bit misleading I suppose.
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misterID
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Yeah, that actually sounds really interesting. But Pixar has always been pretty vague when it comes to early descriptions of their films. There's no way a rehashed story would make it out of the initial meetings for an original Pixar film, or even the pitching session.
Another good read: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/charlie-sheen-anger-management-warner-bros-lawyers-290685
Take a look at the damages that WB can go after Charlie Sheen for just for using an image of himself from his work on a show that they own/produce in Two and a Half Men.
Now, look at how many Social Media are stealing Disney's IP and selling and profitting off of it and living Disney Lifestyles from it ... and ask yourself how these folks would pay multi-million dollar settlements with Disney if/when the company decides it really doesn't believe that stealing IP is OK if someone blathers on about how MAGICal WDW is on a blog/podcast/ etc ...
Again, someone will have to tell me why making DVD's of Disney property and selling them for pure profit isn't theivery of the highest form.
This is a studio going after someone who is STILL making them millions and millions of dollars annually and they are still so proactive in protecting what is their IP ... yet Disney is letting 'certain' bored housewives, soccer moms, fanboi bloggers and online wannable pseudo celebrities steal their IP.
Does something not smell Kosher?
~But watch what happens if someone 'borrows' one of their pics and doesn't give them credit!~
Take a look at the damages that WB can go after Charlie Sheen for just for using an image of himself from his work on a show that they own/produce in Two and a Half Men.
Now, look at how many Social Media are stealing Disney's IP and selling and profitting off of it and living Disney Lifestyles from it ... and ask yourself how these folks would pay multi-million dollar settlements with Disney if/when the company decides it really doesn't believe that stealing IP is OK if someone blathers on about how MAGICal WDW is on a blog/podcast/ etc ...
Again, someone will have to tell me why making DVD's of Disney property and selling them for pure profit isn't theivery of the highest form.
This is a studio going after someone who is STILL making them millions and millions of dollars annually and they are still so proactive in protecting what is their IP ... yet Disney is letting 'certain' bored housewives, soccer moms, fanboi bloggers and online wannable pseudo celebrities steal their IP.
Does something not smell Kosher?
~But watch what happens if someone 'borrows' one of their pics and doesn't give them credit!~
Yet another good read: this one focuses on Disney's well know corporate governance issues: (it's available to WSJ subscribers only)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204571404577255733105272956.html
The main issue is that Disney has again ignored basic rules of good leadership according to a prominent investor-advisory by giving Bob Iger the title of Chairman of the Board in addition to his role as CEO and that four members of the Governance Panel (Judith Estrin, Aylwin Lewis, Robert Matschullat and Facebook No.2 -- and North Miami Beach High 1987 Grad -- Sheryl Sandberg) ... the report also blasts Disney for Iger's $31.4 million compensation and ''finds pay for performance misaligned'' at Disney.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204571404577255733105272956.html
The main issue is that Disney has again ignored basic rules of good leadership according to a prominent investor-advisory by giving Bob Iger the title of Chairman of the Board in addition to his role as CEO and that four members of the Governance Panel (Judith Estrin, Aylwin Lewis, Robert Matschullat and Facebook No.2 -- and North Miami Beach High 1987 Grad -- Sheryl Sandberg) ... the report also blasts Disney for Iger's $31.4 million compensation and ''finds pay for performance misaligned'' at Disney.
NoChesterHester
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Thank you for sharing. Interesting read.
disney fan 13
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Hmmmm.... what other Disney Exec was given the title of both chairman and CEO? not one loved by the fan community that's for sure...
Here's a complete story on Iger's situation and Disney's (typical) response.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-defends-bob-iger-compensation-john-pepper-296379
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-defends-bob-iger-compensation-john-pepper-296379
NoChesterHester
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The past five years have been highly tumultuous in the market so I'm not sure that part is entirely fair.
Too much consolidated power is never a good thing.
I don't dislike Iger... but I do miss the larger then life personality of Eisner.
Too much consolidated power is never a good thing.
I don't dislike Iger... but I do miss the larger then life personality of Eisner.
I think it is fair IF you compare Disney to the other media companies.
Heck, I actually think it is fair even if you don't because the job of a top manager/leader is to produce results even in tough times ... and Iger hasn't done that. The proof is in the numbers!
Generally, I agree with that. But look at Viacom/CBS, they are completely controlled by one old man ... and they have been doing quite well.
Well, I've already written plenty about Michael because I know him personally and I will admit I have a bit of a bias there because I do know what a great leader he was for much of his tenure (despite his last 5-6 years that were almost an utter disaster) ... but Eisner was personally invested in Disney (to a fault sometimes), and Iger just isn't. He is quite happy being paid an absurd amount of money to be the top manager of Disney.
~Taking the day off!~
NoChesterHester
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Ok.... How has NBC Universal compared during the same period? I don't know, just wondering.
Fair.
I tend to agree. I obviously have no personal knowledge of either man, but Eisner's passion came through in his speeches, presentation, and demeanor. He seemed to take risks and push the company, not just buy up the competition. I fell in love with Disney Parks during his reign so I have a lot of respect for what he accomplished.
Even the people that thrash him have to admit that WDW is what it is largely because of his vision.
Like I stated before I don't hold any animosity toward Iger. I do find him more rigid and far less interesting. He is steady driving the ship, but doesn't seem to want to chart any new waters. The lack of passion leaves something to be desired.
flynnibus
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CBS?? How quickly we forget just how recently they were on the bottom with what seemed like. O hope. NBC used to be huge, now they are down.
Point being the shine of network tv only lasts as long as their current hits. Not great comparisons when talking about short term comparisons
Point being the shine of network tv only lasts as long as their current hits. Not great comparisons when talking about short term comparisons
Thanks for posting this, it is indeed interesting.
The thing that surprises me is that Iger appears to lead mainly in a way that looks out for the share price, but this is one of the things they criticised about him: that an investment in Disney stock only had a 5% increase over the last 5 years.
I am sure that share prices are influenced by a million factors, but maybe Iger is looking at the wrong factors? I wonder whether the way the brand is perceived might play a role in this. Looking at the annual report, it appears to be difficult to figure out what Disney really is and stands for. ESPN is one of their largest money maker (if not the largest), in the Parks & Resorts division they rely heavily on selling DVC. Neither sports nor real estate development appear very much to be "Disney". So, maybe diversifying has left them with less of a distinctive brand and therefore the company appears less appealing in some ways?
misterID
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I'd say you're right about him being personally invested. That's not exactly a good thing, at least in the latter half of his career there. But he was all about Disney and not detached like Iger. Putting himself in the film attraction at MGM said everything. He had a HUGE ego and filled the company with HIS people who weren't looking to make Disney great. Aren't most of them still there?
He just gets wayyyyyy too much credit from some people. There's before Wells and after Wells when it comes to Eisner's tenure at Disney. And there's a big reason why things went down hill when the last of Frank's fingerprints were removed from Disney and Michael had control. That guy was the best thing to happen to Disney since Walt.
AvengersWDW
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I will never understand how anyone can ever defend Eisner. After Wells died he was insane. He did so many stupid things that included almost killing the relationship with Pixar. The only thing i can credit him is the smart move to merge with ABC/ESPN, which has worked out with ESPN being the greatest sports station and ABC being the best network station for the last 3-4 years.
Iger is by far one of the best things to happen to Disney. Not only for the Pixar deal but with the Marvel deal. Someone up thread incorrectly said that Disney is still paying Paramount a ton with Avengers coming out and that is flat out wrong. Disney paid a couple years ago for the rights for the movie it is just that part of the Deal was that Paramount had their logo in the credits.
AvengersWDW
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I will never understand how anyone can ever defend Eisner. After Wells died he was insane. He did so many stupid things that included almost killing the relationship with Pixar. The only thing i can credit him is the smart move to merge with ABC/ESPN, which has worked out with ESPN being the greatest sports station and ABC being the best network station for the last 3-4 years.
Iger is by far one of the best things to happen to Disney. Not only for the Pixar deal but with the Marvel deal. Someone up thread incorrectly said that Disney is still paying Paramount a ton with Avengers coming out and that is flat out wrong. Disney paid a couple years ago for the rights for the movie it is just that part of the Deal was that Paramount had their logo in the credits.
Iger is by far one of the best things to happen to Disney. Not only for the Pixar deal but with the Marvel deal. Someone up thread incorrectly said that Disney is still paying Paramount a ton with Avengers coming out and that is flat out wrong. Disney paid a couple years ago for the rights for the movie it is just that part of the Deal was that Paramount had their logo in the credits.
CBS has been the No. 1 network for most of the past decade ... NBC has fallen greatly and it has been over many years.
My point is simply that (without looking, so this may be slightly off) if CBS has been No. 1 for eight years straight, that isn't short-term at all.
But not sure what we are exactly talking about here ... I actually generally like what ABC is doing ... it's taking chances and being creative ... CBS just sticks with what works: corpses and comedy.
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HMButler79
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Pocahontas, Hunchback, Hercules, Mulan, Tarzan, Fantastia 2000, Atlantis, DAK, Everest, the first Pirates, ________ Cook, the Treasure DVD line, the Platinum DVD line were AAAAAAAAAAAL insane?????