defending the so called "Cheap" carnival attractions

[Lucky]

The original point of the thread was to defend the inclusion of rides like Cindy's Carousel, Dumbo and Tea Cups that are not very different from what you'd see at dozens of amusement parks.

I agree. These are very popular with young kids, and even with many adults.

The thread became a debate over whether the Imagineers made a mistake with Dinoland. Many guests don't get it, and many people who do get it don't like it. The Dinosaur ride is not part of the roadside carnival motif, so there's not even a coherent theme for the area.

I think the intentional tackiness of Dinoland was probably a mistake, but I like having a kid's ride like Triceratops Spin.

 

[markjohns1]

Your comment doesn't change the fact that it is the biggest band-aid on property. They can put whatever propaganda spin on it to justify there actions. At the end of the day it is, and always will be, a quick fix that doesn't fit the park it is located in. You cannot say the same thing about Tomorrowland.

Interesting. I was under the impression that Camp Minnie-Mickey is the "biggest band-aid on property," or at least in AK, because there actually was supposed to be something else in that location.

And just to try to create a distinction, is it Dino-Rama that "doesn't fit" or is it Dinoland U.S.A. that "doesn't fit?"

Bravo, sir. You can give an area all the story you want, but it needs quality attractions to back it up.

Really? I think Mainstreet U.S.A. and the countries of the World Showcase are fantastic areas with great story and theming. They don't appear to need "quality attractions to back it up."

 

[krankenstein]

Interesting. I was under the impression that Camp Minnie-Mickey is the "biggest band-aid on property," or at least in AK, because there actually was supposed to be something else in that location.

And just to try to create a distinction, is it Dino-Rama that "doesn't fit" or is it Dinoland U.S.A. that "doesn't fit?"

Really? I think Mainstreet U.S.A. and the countries of the World Showcase are fantastic areas with great story and theming. They don't appear to need "quality attractions to back it up."

Dinoland U.S.A. fits, if it wasn't distorted from the original version. Plus, the area that is currently filled by Dino-Rama was suppose to be something different. Look up a little ride called The Excavator.

CMM was and still is a temporary waste of space. According to Lee, We can expect to see dirt being moved in that area starting next year (remember Pocahontas just closed :animwink. Unless something drastically changes within the company, Dino-Rama is a permanent band-aid.

 

[Dragonrider1227]

*stands and applauses to Markjohns1's comment* You can argue that the theme and story IS in itself's the attraction. Also wasn't Half Tomorrowland when it opened in 1955 pretty much "Band-aid attractions?"

 

[SirGoofy]

First to markjohn, I would say the attractions that are in WS are quality. And I know this is going to sound like I'm back tracking, but at least MS and WS are QUALITY. They don't look cheap. Whereas Dino-rama does.

*stands and applauses to Markjohns1's comment* You can argue that the theme and story IS in itself's the attraction. Also wasn't Half Tomorrowland when it opened in 1955 pretty much "Band-aid attractions?"

Are you really comparing the opening of Disneyland, the companies first park, to the building of a band-aid land when the company had the funds to make something else? Come-on man. Besides Walt wasn't happy with Tomorrowland when it opened.

 

[Dragonrider1227]

Okay, granted. :dazzle: But it still stands to the point that it's not the first time Disney's just thrown something together and called it an attraction.
On a different defense though, I still stand by my theory that simple, non-immersive, (and yes, sometimes downright cheap) attractions are neccesery to a place like Disney World. The big, imersive, E-Ticket rides, or even the B ticket dark rides like in Fantasyland can be too much for some people. Especially children and even some adults. They're a good way to unwind and get ready for the next E-Ticket. I wouldn't want the WHOLE Animal Kingdom park to be like Dino-Rama, but that one spot does work for what it's meant to be. And talking about immersive experiences overwhelming you, my dad once said when he first rode POTC *I think it was POTC* and was so overwhelmed by the details, and the immersive experience that he couldn't enjoy it until he found an air-vent somewhere on the wall. this reminded him that it was indeed fake and he could enjoy it

 

[hack2112]

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I may have totally the wrong take on this part of the park, but I have always felt like when you go to Animal Kingdom, they want you to experience Africa etc. The "carnival theming" to me is what it might look like if a small company set up a carnival in a village to entertain the people who are living and working there. It isn't supposed to be big city, modern day, but sort of nostalgia of what might have been in the late 50s and 60s when road side carnivals moved from town to town. In this case it would have been there for the natives as well as the English and missionaries who were working in Africa. JMHO but for me it justifies that section of the park. BTW I love Animal Kingdom and spend part of every day I go to the parks there.

Dino-Rama is not set in Africa.

 

[SirGoofy]

Okay, granted. :dazzle: But it still stands to the point that it's not the first time Disney's just thrown something together and called it an attraction.
On a different defense though, I still stand by my theory that simple, non-immersive, (and yes, sometimes downright cheap) attractions are neccesery to a place like Disney World. The big, imersive, E-Ticket rides, or even the B ticket dark rides like in Fantasyland can be too much for some people. Especially children and even some adults. They're a good way to unwind and get ready for the next E-Ticket. I wouldn't want the WHOLE Animal Kingdom park to be like Dino-Rama, but that one spot does work for what it's meant to be. And talking about immersive experiences overwhelming you, my dad once said when he first rode POTC *I think it was POTC* and was so overwhelmed by the details, and the immersive experience that he couldn't enjoy it until he found an air-vent somewhere on the wall. this reminded him that it was indeed fake and he could enjoy it

Oh, I'm not saying they have no place. It just irks me that IMO they screwed up DAK with Dino-Rama. DAK is just so beautifully done, until you look at that area. It also irks me that there are 3 spinners in MK. If there was one at each park, I'd mind a little less. But 3 in one? And the fourth one is in my least enjoyed sections of any park. It's just my opinion, but really that's all this is haha. I'm not trying to fight with anyone.:wave: