Private homes on the way to Walt Disney World

Captain Chaos

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From the Orlando Sentinel today:

If you have millions, a home near Disney could be yours

Scott Powers
Sentinel Staff Writer
March 28, 2008

Three-story mansions and hundreds of other homes -- most valued at millions of dollars apiece -- would be built along the banks of Walt Disney World canals and sold to private individuals in a project under review by Orange County.

The homes, mostly single-family residences but including a few condominiums and time-share units, would rise from what was Disney's Eagle Pines Golf Course -- just a jog away from the Magic Kingdom, Epcot and Downtown Disney. The adjacent Osprey Ridge Golf Course would be incorporated into the private development, now called the "Northeast Resort."

Disney insists it is still too early in the planning process to discuss many details. With the country mired in a housing slump, one local expert said luxury homes in the gated community would most likely be marketed to and snapped up by wealthy foreign buyers.

Disney World first announced its intentions in March 2007 to build a luxury housing resort on 429 acres in the northeast corner of the giant resort, but few details have been reported. A year ago, more attention was focused on related plans to build an anchor for the resort -- a Four Seasons luxury hotel -- which would go up on another section of the former Eagle Pines Golf Course.

Rezoning plans now circulating in Orange County government's planning division remain limited in detail but suggest a neighborhood like no other: a gated community of estate homes, village homes, courtyard homes, cluster-villa homes and condominiums closer than most of Disney's hotels to the world's most popular theme parks. Disney is asking Orange County to rezone the property as a planned development, with areas defined for single-family homes, multifamily homes, time-share units and conservation easements.

Altogether, the project could encompass as many as 373 single-family homes, 200 multifamily homes and 60 time-share units, though the final tallies are expected to be lower.


Earlier forays

Disney World has spun off land for residential development before -- notably the communities of Celebration and Little Lake Bryan -- but the Northeast Resort would be far more luxurious, said Marilyn Waters, spokeswoman for Walt Disney Imagineering, the Disney office that handles real-estate development. She compared the Northeast Resort concept to the Four Seasons-anchored Aviara community in San Diego, a high-end vacation community for people rich enough to have multimillion-dollar second or third homes.

"This is in essence the coming together of the Disney brand and the Four Seasons brand. This is the first time that has happened," Waters said. "These are often the types of places people come in for two or three weeks, then they won't be back for several months."

William Weaver, a real-estate professor at the University of Central Florida, predicted Disney would market such homes heavily overseas. Disney's reputation for attention to detail, he said, along with the project's unique location, should make even mansions easy to sell, regardless of market conditions.

"I can't see many Americans buying multimillion-dollar second houses on Disney property, not very many. But I certainly can see foreigners," Weaver said. "As the dollar keeps deteriorating against everything else, it becomes cheaper and cheaper."

The area would be developed much as Disney developed Little Lake Bryan, Celebration and a couple of smaller projects. Disney would have the property de-annexed from both the Reedy Creek Improvement District -- the independent government district created in 1967 to provide countylike services to Disney World -- and from Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake, the two cities created back then to provide city services to most of Disney World.

Orange County would then provide such services, including utilities, fire protection and sheriff's patrols.

Although the area is still within Reedy Creek's jurisdiction for now, Disney is seeking advance approval from Orange County officials with a de-annexation in mind. The project is now headed for public hearings before the county Planning and Zoning Commission and the Board of County Commissioners.


Getting to work

Earlier this month, Disney World contractors began preparing the site, installing construction fences and doing some light earthmoving on land north of Vista Boulevard and west of Winter Garden-Vineland Road. That work should take most of the rest of the year, Waters said, but actual home construction could start before the year is out.

The vast majority of the homes would be built to order, and the entire community could take up to 10 years to build, though planners don't expect it to take that long.

The county has recommended a few changes in the plans, yet there appear to be no major concerns, Orange County Planning Administrator John Smogor said.

Built out to the maximum, the area could house an estimated 1,702 people. The county has to review the plans under the assumption that, except for the time-share units, the homes would serve as the owners' primary residences, Smogor said, meaning a year-round impact on roads and services.

But "if they sell these homes to rich people in Japan, the Philippines, Chicago or New York, and they want to come down here and just have a big house a few weeks a year at Disney, that's fine," he said.


Scott Powers can be reached at spowers@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5441.

Copyright © 2008, Orlando Sentinel
 

tigsmom

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Do they know about the housing/mortgage crisis? The record numbers of foreclosures across the country? They cannot sell the houses that already exist, why would they build more? :confused:

Wealthy foreign buyers? Are there that many people wanting to buy vacation homes?
 

SpectroMan

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Do they know about the housing/mortgage crisis? The record numbers of foreclosures across the country? They cannot sell the houses that already exist, why would they build more? :confused:

Wealthy foreign buyers? Are there that many people wanting to buy vacation homes?

The people that will be buying these homes are not having these problems. Also, Florida, in general, is not experiencing the economic downturn like other states.

If the dollar stays weak, foreign buyers are going to love buying a vacation home. They will be getting a lot for their money.
 

DisneyWales

Member
Well $1mil is £500 tho almost, maybe £600, thats about the cost of a 4/5 bedroom home in the UK. Expensive, but not out of the means of stable income home owners here in the UK.

Which could be used as vacation homes as a business venture too, i can totally see this workin, depends if zoning allows these to be used as vacation rental properties, which im sure disney will wrangle.
 

sknydave

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Absolutely. There are tons of different ways to approach this. The writer of that article is insane if they think those houses aren't going to sell lightning fast.
 

wannab@dis

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Do they know about the housing/mortgage crisis?
There is not a housing / mortgage crisis for those that can afford to own a home and it is basically zero for those that can afford a second home. The foreclosures and credit issues are specifically centered around the sub-prime loans --- those people that should never have bought a house to begin with. Now, it's being used to fuel a frenzy to enact broader regulations.

Please... let's not buy into nor further the hype.


As for the OP... I predict it will be a huge success and they will have little trouble moving the houses. In fact, as mentioned, if you wanted and could afford the house, it would probably be a decent investment as a rental property.
 

wdwmagic

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I think it would be very easy for Disney to sell out that small amount of homes in such a unique space. There may be a housing decline for the masses right now, but there sure are enough people with a lot of money out there to snap these up.
 

miles1

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It makes me kind of sad to see this. I've always thought of the WDW property as a retreat from the over-development and rows of McMansions I face at home. It seems with this development and the western way development underway that the outside world is closing in on the property. I understand the company's need to turn a profit, but will there be any open space left in the future?
 

Fun2BFree

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Joe Foreigner would leap for the chance to stay so close to Disney. And with the exchange rate looking so favourable for us, I can see these going in a blink of an eye.
 

culturenthrills

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The people that will be buying these homes are not having these problems. Also, Florida, in general, is not experiencing the economic downturn like other states.

If the dollar stays weak, foreign buyers are going to love buying a vacation home. They will be getting a lot for their money.


While maybe not like Michigan or Ohio, Florida has had a pretty sever economic downturn since almost every industry that has something to do with home construction has layed people off. On top of the local govt's laying people off due to the downturn in revenue. The only thing keeping Florida's head above the water is international tourists. Cause domestic tourism has been flat and will probably decline as more and more people face economic problems this year.
 

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