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A better PI

Craig & Lisa

Active Member
The AC is one place you can go to see and be part of a comedy show. One time infact my younger son was part of the show in the main hall, when the president said something to the butler, when my son said something totally unexpected and caught both of them off guard. She had to turn aside for a second and giggle for a moment, then came back into character. It was great, then 2 weeks ago I caught Samantha Sterling off guard, when she tried to corner me when I was sitting next to that same son when I just grabbed her hand and started to leave the library with her. Fantastic.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Yesterday, I believe, a thread was started about weather City Walk or PI is better. Quite a few people, even cast members, votes CW over PI. I agree that PI has gone downhill, but what could Disney do to improve PI, what kinds of clubs/resturants/activities should be added?

One idea that I thought of was maybe a salsa club. At DTD in California, they had a cuban resturant, maybe, that had fantastic performers and a live bongo like band. The stage was a half moon shape and moved up and down to the different floors of the resturant and when the performers were on break, the stage would become level with the bottom floor and people would come out and salsa....it was really cool and the decor was so festive and fun....I think that would be an awesome addition to PI...

Well, the one time i was at City Walk, i wasn't stumbling over children and underaged people so i could have a very enjoyable, adult atmosphere. I find waaaaay too often people somehow think that PI is an appropriate envionemnt for children or puppies.

As for a Cuban Club, There's one near Virgin Megastore in DTD. They have drinks and dancing and live entertainment.
 

slappy magoo

Well-Known Member
Here are a few things I came up with
A.bring back the stage/celebration
B. Make it all ages as long as your with a parent/guaridan(or AT LEAST 16 and up)
C. Make a country western club kinda like how the neon armidello was
D. Make some new clubs that appeal to the younger crowd
E. Make specials, that would bring lots of college kids from the local colleges
F. Make it both for the residents and the tourists
G. Make a club that couples that want to leave the kids at home, or don't have any with can go to let loose
~A dream is what your heart makes~
~When you wish upon a star~

Gotta disagree w/ you on a few points.

B. Pleasure Island should actively discourage people bringing minors in, even to look around. It's a giant interactive boozing area, and with the slight exceptions of Comedy Warehouse & AC, inappropriate to bring kids. It's why my wife & I spend so little time in the dance clubs. Seeing drunk guys falling on little kids in dimly lit clubs, or hit on teens trying to look and act older, is not my idea of fun.

E. "specials" that bring in college kids usually involve cheaper drinks or the promise of a morally ambiguous night. One nice thing about drink prices being so high is it helps cut down on binge drinking & regrettable behaviour. Don't actively discourage college kids, but no need to try to atract them, either.

F. When PI actively pursued a local crowd, they had problems because of local bad blood boiling over in their clubs. Gang fights and the like. People who would be more interested in disrupting the vacations of strangers than just having a casual good time. If WDW makes PI interesting and fun enough, like-minded locals and colege kids will seek it out, leaving the seamier club crowd to hit regular clubs throughout Orlando.

My 2 cents is:

1: promote PI inconjunction with DQ, and rework PI as a "safe haven," a place where kids can be safely dropped off, and will be kept until picked up. It may convince more parents to visit and party, and keep kids out, while giving them a place they'd enjoy to stay.

2: DE-Disnify the live entertainment. When there are bands n Disney clubs, they often feel like a homogenized pre-packaged band-like experience & less like an actual band. Something I'd expect to see on a Carnival Cruise Line or 60s Catskill resort. There are plenty of awesome origina & cover bands throughout the country. Find them, and offer them a month-long gig, and hype them as The Next Big Thing. See 'em while you can. Generate genuine excitement for the show instead of relying on lame singalongs and lead singers shouting out "Is everybody having a good time? I can't hear you...IS EVERYBODY HAVING A GOOD TIME?!?!"

3: I agree in bringing back a c&w club. And a jazz club. Thre needs to be diverse entertainment for different tastes. Not to mention there should be places for, shall we say, people who want to be out at a club but not "clubbing." I'd suggest a lounge-y cabaret club/piano bar for Standards.

4: Keep professional dancers who are pretending NOT to be pros away. I find this the lamest form of forced fun. "Hey, there's a white guy and black guy dressed identically doing an awesome impromptu dance routine! They're bringing it onning, but no one's getting served! You think they met each othere here? And look at that super-hot buxom blond in 8-Trax! She can't possibly be alone dot dot dot CAN SHE???" Lame. Forced. Insulting. Stop. If you mudt have dancers, hype them as such, make it a brief but seperate show.

5: If necessary, do promotions to entice resort guests. Free drink coupons. Fastpass-esque Guaranteed seatings at CW. Free or inexpensive valet parking. More ferries late at night for PO, SSR & OKW.
 

hrcollectibles

Active Member
Here are a few things I came up with
A.bring back the stage/celebration
B. Make it all ages as long as your with a parent/guaridan(or AT LEAST 16 and up)
C. Make a country western club kinda like how the neon armidello was
D. Make some new clubs that appeal to the younger crowd
E. Make specials, that would bring lots of college kids from the local colleges
F. Make it both for the residents and the tourists
G. Make a club that couples that want to leave the kids at home, or don't have any with can go to let loose
~A dream is what your heart makes~
~When you wish upon a star~

I have to diagree with this one... but maybe have one club that is strictly for teens.. or have a cluib that had a teen nite. I have worked in the Bar industry and if you mix 21 and up with the younger set you are looking for trouble... No offense to the younger set here
 

DisneyChik17

Well-Known Member
I have to diagree with this one... but maybe have one club that is strictly for teens.. or have a cluib that had a teen nite. I have worked in the Bar industry and if you mix 21 and up with the younger set you are looking for trouble... No offense to the younger set here

I agree completly! I am 18 and there is no way I want some bar rat 40-something hitting on me and my friends while we are just having fun. It's creepy and dangerous.

I think a teen club would be a fabulous idea. It would provide teens an opportunity to go have fun and stop making WDW a "kid place." Maybe even put it in DQ.

Really, PI & DTD have endless possibilities. It is truely the fault of TWDC for not futher pushing them.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Hi, ladies:wave:

While I appreciate you wanting to pesonalize your posts, that pink and fuschia is VERY hard to read.

I think you mioght have some good ideas....I just can't read them! :wave:
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
Yeah, princess lovers...

I'm sorry, but the pink is almost completely illegible on the blue backgrounds here. Please type your posts in either dark blue or black, and just leave your signatures pink. We want to know what you have to say! :wave:
 

Richie248

Well-Known Member
As mentioned in previous posts, I'm all for a Karaoke experience at PI, but not just your normal bar karaoke, an "American Idol" sized experience with a big stage and lights. It would give us common folk a chance to be superstars!

An upscale wine bar would be nice, and it would fit nicely in a smaller space.

As for the nightly celebration, I was never apart of them, but they did look fun. Would love to see them return! Did they stop that because Saratoga Springs is in close proximity? then again wasn't Disney Institue in the same spot....
 

JeffC

New Member
WOW, great post - and so many people with some of my feelings.
In my opinion, they ruined PI when they started messing with it.
When it first opened, they had the country/western bar, the jazz club, disco, rock, hip-hop, comedy, - and then you could just walk around enjoying a beer and watch/listen to the band on stage.
That was the PI I knew and loved.
I'd like to meet the idiot who felt he needed to fix what wasn't broken...
 

jmvd20

Well-Known Member
A better PI...


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PKD

Active Member
As for the nightly celebration, I was never apart of them, but they did look fun. Would love to see them return! Did they stop that because Saratoga Springs is in close proximity? then again wasn't Disney Institue in the same spot....

They took the Explosion Dancers away back in Sept 2001 right after the 9/11/01. They said it was due to fall in attendence, however they had been cutting back for some time before that.
 

lilclerk

Well-Known Member
The only kinds of (new) clubs I would go to would be a jazz club and maybe karaoke.

I already love the AC and the comedy warehouse.
 

ImaYoyo

Active Member
Though I've already thrown in my opinion of the need for some improvement, it's important to note that P.I. is significantly more profitable now then it has been in the past 5 years. Could be due to the increase in attendance, however the increase in revenue is higher proportionately to the increase in overall WDW attendance. I do know that they get more of my Alcohol $$$ now with the Monday and Thursday specials. Make the prices almost like a regular bar. Well, until they just raised them, that is.
 

palmage

Member
Gotta disagree w/ you on a few points.

B. Pleasure Island should actively discourage people bringing minors in, even to look around. It's a giant interactive boozing area, and with the slight exceptions of Comedy Warehouse & AC, inappropriate to bring kids. It's why my wife & I spend so little time in the dance clubs. Seeing drunk guys falling on little kids in dimly lit clubs, or hit on teens trying to look and act older, is not my idea of fun.

My 2 cents is:

1: promote PI inconjunction with DQ, and rework PI as a "safe haven," a place where kids can be safely dropped off, and will be kept until picked up. It may convince more parents to visit and party, and keep kids out, while giving them a place they'd enjoy to stay.

Disney needs a "kid free zone"
 

ImaYoyo

Active Member
So which is it?
Please don't say 1.
Disney needs a "kid free zone"
P.I. is now doing something similar to what city walk started. around 11PM or so, Disney Security and off-duty OCS check IDs at the entrances of the Island to discourage teen-loitering, since there's not much for them to do there without an adult. It works VERY well, much better than I thought it might, at discouraging kids from entering unsupervised. It's kind of comical too, because they will say "ID Please", but not mention you don't have to be a certain age to enter, so most teens will just turn around and walk away.
 

Kristi Kay

New Member
Original Poster
Disney needs a "kid free zone"

I personally think it would be a good idea for PI to be a kids free zone, especially after maybe 7 or 8 pm. There are so many highly intoxicated adults walking around and the potential for the kiddo’s being exposed to some stuff they are too young to be around....Plus, practically everything at Disney world is targeted toward the young or young at heart. I don’t think it would be horrible to have one row of bars and club that strictly adults can enjoy with worrying about the kids that are watching them or hitting on some girl/guy that is was underage...lol
 

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