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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Jedi14

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I just rewatched both Rivers of Light because I had only seen the original in person when it at Animal Kingdom. I realized why I forgot about it because it was honestly so boring. The We Are One version has better bones and could work if they wanted to bring it back. I do remember this was when I realized some Parks fans really hate IP.
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
I think you mean successor.

Oops, yes!

I just rewatched both Rivers of Light because I had only seen the original in person when it at Animal Kingdom. I realized why I forgot about it because it was honestly so boring. The We Are One version has better bones and could work if they wanted to bring it back. I do remember this was when I realized some Parks fans really hate IP.

I'm not going to claim the show itself was super exciting, because it was largely just light up barges floating around slowly. Visually it was very pretty, but just didn't have a whole lot happening. However, with the visuals, message, and musical score combined, it's not hard to see what they were going for and how a more exciting version of the show clearly could exist with both a bigger budget and without the noise and pyro constraints of Animal Kingdom.

The We Are One version was bad not because of IP but rather because it was poorly shoehorned in IP that broke up the pacing and flow of the show and its artistic intent. It's one of the best/worst examples of modern Disney Parks leadership not understanding the product they have in their parks, not addressing or caring about figuring out the true root of the cause of an under-performing an attraction, and instead opting for a lazy, dumbed down fix. Oh, people find the show boring? It couldn't be because we slashed the budget to the point where hardly anything happens... no, clearly the guests just need more characters that they recognize to point at.

And sadly, that does work for some guests, enough for them to continue to not try harder.

I urge you and everyone to listen to the official Rivers of Light soundtrack on its own, and then think about how dumb it would be to have I Just Can't Wait to Be King or whatever randomly dropped in. Because that's what it was.
 

Jedi14

Well-Known Member
Oops, yes!



I'm not going to claim the show itself was super exciting, because it was largely just light up barges floating around slowly. Visually it was very pretty, but just didn't have a whole lot happening. However, with the visuals, message, and musical score combined, it's not hard to see what they were going for and how a more exciting version of the show clearly could exist with both a bigger budget and without the noise and pyro constraints of Animal Kingdom.

The We Are One version was bad not because of IP but rather because it was poorly shoehorned in IP that broke up the pacing and flow of the show and its artistic intent. It's one of the best/worst examples of modern Disney Parks leadership not understanding the product they have in their parks, not addressing or caring about figuring out the true root of the cause of an under-performing an attraction, and instead opting for a lazy, dumbed down fix. Oh, people find the show boring? It couldn't be because we slashed the budget to the point where hardly anything happens... no, clearly the guests just need more characters that they recognize to point at.

And sadly, that does work for some guests, enough for them to continue to not try harder.

I urge you and everyone to listen to the official Rivers of Light soundtrack on its own, and then think about how dumb it would be to have I Just Can't Wait to Be King or whatever randomly dropped in. Because that's what it was.
The soundtrack for both versions are fine. For We Are One, the made a mistake having a four minute segment of just the characters before the floats came out. Mixing in animated characters and live action animals could work for the show, it just wasn’t done particularly well.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
More reasons to be in the park in the evening could bring in more money...more dining moore shopping sales.... Adding a few new attractions that are not related to animals and can stay open after dark help too...But a show or ecen a water based parade that would cycle through the waterways could be pretty cool and unlike the show, would give multiple slocations all over the park to view it...including the amphiteater for Rivers Of Light....for it's Finale without water screens and cartoon clips.... THe idea for the original Rivers Of Light was really good... byt the time they reached the second version cartoon cavalcade, I think it was a bore...Seems like a lot of the aurdience did too....when I was there anyway. Moost people did not stay for the whole show.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
It’s about ROI. Would a show make substantially more money than the park does already.
Given their stated capacity concerns resort-wide, I presume it would be appealing if guests stayed at DAK past 4 pm? Dinner sales and more LL sales also couldn't hurt. Of course, they'd need enough viable attractions open late. The nighttime safari failure was truly unfortunate.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Given their stated capacity concerns resort-wide, I presume it would be appealing if guests stayed at DAK past 4 pm? Dinner sales and more LL sales also couldn't hurt. Of course, they'd need enough viable attractions open late. The nighttime safari failure was truly unfortunate.
We know it can be done and how. Personally we had a great night safari (and a not so good one) and loved the orignal RoL despite some technical flaws.

They’d have to consider staffing and wages, maintenance periods and the cost of a new night show. We know it would make sense.

They’d do it if the numbers added up.
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
We know it can be done and how. Personally we had a great night safari (and a not so good one) and loved the orignal RoL despite some technical flaws.

They’d have to consider staffing and wages, maintenance periods and the cost of a new night show. We know it would make sense.

They’d do it if the numbers added up.
Did they do dessert parties/dining packages for RoL when it opened? I know Tiffins was pretty new at the time but cannot remember if it hosted dining packages like the Fantasmic ones. There aren't many table service restaurants in AK to do dining packages in either
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
How come they've never tried a World of Color type show in that lagoon? I personally liked River of Light before they IP-fied it, but a WoC + Drone type show would work well I think, plus you could easily swap out IPs or whatever

I could be wrong... but DCA's lagoon is basically a giant swimming pool (the water is clean), while the DAK lagoon seems more "alive" with algae, plants, dirt, ect... Although that probably doesn't matter too much because EPCOT for sure has fish in it and those harmonious barges could pump some serious water.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I could be wrong... but DCA's lagoon is basically a giant swimming pool (the water is clean), while the DAK lagoon seems more "alive" with algae, plants, dirt, ect...
Yes, I think it would be very difficult to do a full world of color type infrastructure at DAK.

But it wouldn’t be difficult to have something like rivers of light with lots more fountains. 12 of those Lilly pads would have been able to do some really cool stuff.
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
Yes, I think it would be very difficult to do a full world of color type infrastructure at DAK.

But it wouldn’t be difficult to have something like rivers of light with lots more fountains. 12 of those Lilly pads would have been able to do some really cool stuff.
now I'm wondering how Harmonious didn't send fish flying though those massive pumps.
 

mattpeto

Well-Known Member
Not enough attractions to keep the park operational till 9 pm, which seems to be the standard to run a nighttime show.

Tropical Americas could help, but my gut feeling it still won't be enough. I'd be content with some middle ground - run a show seasonally when you can start it 7 pm or 8 pm for most of the year.

It's sort of the chicken or egg first dilemma.
 

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