The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[mickEblu]

That is why I said it depends on the tree, not all trees have deep roots, some have shallow roots. I'm not an expert either, but have some experience due my own issues with tress going over in storms. Every couple years I have to have my local city horticulturist come out to inspect a very large eucalyptus tree because they are known to have shallow roots (neighbors get worried it'll fall over).

So if we knew what type of tree that was we could say if it potentially had the capability of deep roots, or if its known to have shallow roots. And then from there we can determine if other factors like dry weather could lead to shallower roots than normal for that species of tree.

I see. It just seems counterintuitive for any large tree to intrinsically have shallow roots. Feels like the only reason that should happen would be due to it being sick or the environment. Most of these trees aren’t native to So Cal right?

 

[Disney Irish]

I see. It just seems counterintuitive for any large tree to intrinsically have shallow roots unless it’s sick or due to the environment.

Some trees have deep roots that stay clustered up, others have shallow roots that branch out wide. It all depends on the species. Just like not all humans are the same, not all trees are the same either.

For example you would think something like the mighty California Redwood would have a deep root because they can grow so tall, but nope it only goes down about 6 feet on average but can go 100 feet across. Another example is the Maple, it only goes down 1-4 feet, but can go up to 25 feet wide. And yet another is trees in your favorite area in the Park, Magnolia, they also only go down 2-3 feet deep, but will go 2-3x as wide as its canopy goes.

 

[mickEblu]

Some trees have deep roots that stay clustered up, others have shallow roots that branch out wide. It all depends on the species. Just like not all humans are the same, not all trees are the same either.

For example you would think something like the mighty California Redwood would have a deep root because they can grow so tall, but nope it only goes down about 6 feet on average but can go 100 feet across. Another example is the Maple, it only goes down 1-4 feet, but can go up to 25 feet wide. And yet another is trees in your favorite area in the Park, Magnolia, they also only go down 2-3 feet deep, but will go 2-3x as wide as its canopy goes.

Wow interesting. Maybe it comes down to the trees just not being native to the area. I know many in So Cal aren’t.

 

[Disney Irish]

Wow interesting. Maybe it comes down to the trees just not being native to the area. I know many in So Cal aren’t.

Possible, but that wouldn't likely be the cause of it not having a deep root, again it would be based on the species of the tree not where its natively from. Also you think that the Disneyland Horticulture Team would know which trees are more or less likely to have a deep root system or not. Especially given they likely wouldn't want something that has large roots that branch out wide as that would destroy all the walkways.

I'm sure there is someone here that is more knowledgeable on horticulture than I am who can explain it better. Like I said I just know a bit from my own experiences from my own backyard with trees falling over after storms and from what I can lookup on the interwebs.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I believe it was as simple as the demand being greater for Cocina Cocamonga

Not why it happened, when it happened.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

Adventure City? It's in Anaheim but it's literally on the same road as Knott's.

Otherwise there's the Aquarium in Long Beach that comes to mind.

I just looked it up, thanks for the advice! Aquarium sounds fun but we've gone to the Odyssey one in Scottsdale fairly recently.

Where will you be based? Anaheim?

Yes, we're staying up the street from Disneyland. Not sure what's around except Knott's and the beach.

 

[mickEblu]

Not why it happened, when it happened.

Oh. Apparently in 2009 according to google. Which means I only would have seen the original configuration one time in 2001.

 

[mickEblu]

Yes, we're staying up the street from Disneyland. Not sure what's around except Knott's and the beach.

I’d say let the day away from the parks be a nice chill day. Take a drive down PCH. Maybe Take a stroll in one or more of the following: Laguna, Dana Point, Balboa island, or Fashion Island in Newport. Grab a nice lunch. Beachcomber, RH, Truly Pizza, Nicks are all good options spending what you re in the mood for.

If you re looking for some good eats close to Disneyland and you get tired of theme park food…

Fuoco Pizzeria
Sababa Falafel

 

[britain]

Certainly could be.

Although they have also flown in people for more minor things haha, we will see!

Corless said he’s been invited to go to WDI in Glendale next week. So something is coming.

 

[mickEblu]

Corless said he’s been invited to go to WDI in Glendale next week. So something is coming.

Third gate announcement incoming

Or new TL

Or Frozen ride/ land

Are they really going to have everyone fly out for more details on things that have already been announced? I guess that’s possible.

 

[mickEblu]

Not why it happened, when it happened.

I wish I could remember where I ate that day on my first and only trip to DCA 1.0. It wouldn’t have been a sit down place with the group I was with. I want to say it was probably a quick service place in Paradise Pier. Weird what sticks what is and what doesn’t because for some reason I can remember walking from the Simba lot, passing by the AMC and seeing a movie poster for Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring. Anyway I do know for sure that I rode/ saw the following:

Soarin Over California
Grizzly River Run
Superstar Limo
Muppet Vision 3D
It’s Tough to be a Bug
California Screamin
Maliboomer
Mulholland Madness
Orange Stinger

Possibly rode the Sun Wheel but it’s hazy

 

[britain]

Third gate announcement incoming

Or new TL

Or Frozen ride/ land

Are they really going to have everyone fly out for more details on things that have already been announced? I guess that’s possible.

Could be something minor that impresses in person but sounds lame when you hear about it. (Meta RayBans that interact with the attractions around you?)

 

[mickEblu]

Could be something minor that impresses in person but sounds lame when you hear about it. (Meta RayBans that interact with the attractions around you?)

Yeah it could be any lame thing unfortunately.

 

[Disney Irish]

Third gate announcement incoming

Or new TL

Or Frozen ride/ land

Are they really going to have everyone fly out for more details on things that have already been announced? I guess that’s possible.

Those would be more a D23 announcement in my opinion.

I'm sticking with my guess of it being EGW/New Harbor Entrance and DLForward related, ie breaking ground on the "future of Disneyland Resort". That is more of something they'd want to hype up in an in-person announcement.

 

[mickEblu]

Those would be more a D23 announcement in my opinion.

I'm sticking with my guess of it being EGW/New Harbor Entrance and DLForward related, ie breaking ground on the "future of Disneyland Resort". That is more of something they'd want to hype up in an in-person announcement.

Ya probably not as big as anything I listed and it’s not like they ve announced that they re making an announcement. In other words, it’s not like they risk overhyping it.

 

[SuddenStorm]

As a lover of greenery, especially trees at Disneyland this is something that’s crossed my mind. Trees don’t last forever. What would happen to the atmosphere for example if the huge “weeping willow” by BTMRR, the huge ficus tree outside of Alice or the beautiful tree outside of the POTC courtyard go down? What would they be replaced with? The vista and ambiance would be drastically altered.

It's just a shame they removed so many trees from the ROA a decade ago. Disneyland is stronger the more real it is - fewer trees, turf, planter removal - it all hurts the place.

 

[Parteecia]

Possible, but that wouldn't likely be the cause of it not having a deep root, again it would be based on the species of the tree not where its natively from. Also you think that the Disneyland Horticulture Team would know which trees are more or less likely to have a deep root system or not. Especially given they likely wouldn't want something that has large roots that branch out wide as that would destroy all the walkways.

I'm sure there is someone here that is more knowledgeable on horticulture than I am who can explain it better. Like I said I just know a bit from my own experiences from my own backyard with trees falling over after storms and from what I can lookup on the interwebs.

It can be a combination of type of tree and watering patterns. For instance many California oaks prefer to put down a deep root but if the yard where they're planted does a lot of lawn watering the roots will tend to grow more shallow because that's where the water is.

 

[Disney Irish]

It can be a combination of type of tree and watering patterns. For instance many California oaks prefer to put down a deep root but if the yard where they're planted does a lot of lawn watering the roots will tend to grow more shallow because that's where the water is.

That is why it’s important to know what species of tree it was. That way we can know, for those really curious, what type of root system it would predominately have. Then we can discuss other factors like weather, care, and all the rest.

Or we can just chalk it up to bad luck with weather and call it a day.

 

[mickEblu]

It's just a shame they removed so many trees from the ROA a decade ago. Disneyland is stronger the more real it is - fewer trees, turf, planter removal - it all hurts the place.

Agreed. And water because it’s starting to feel like they have something against H2O too.

 

[mickEblu]

Those would be more a D23 announcement in my opinion.

I'm sticking with my guess of it being EGW/New Harbor Entrance and DLForward related, ie breaking ground on the "future of Disneyland Resort". That is more of something they'd want to hype up in an in-person announcement.

But to play Devils advocate - D’amaro just got named CEO. Maybe he wants to make some big splashy announcement. Considering Iger is still there though would it be D’amaro making the announcement? Feels like he wouldn’t get full credit if it was announced now.