TheDisneyParksfanC8
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We shall If Dave's sources are right in due time.
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News Avatar Experience coming to Disneyland Resort
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denyuntilcaught
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Absolutely believe the cadence is: Avengers Campus Expansion -> Coco -> [lull] -> Avatar.
mickEblu
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Yup.
2027, 2028, 2030*
*I could see Avatar opening anywhere from the start of DL’s 75th in May 2030 through February 2031 for a joint bash with DCA’s 30th depending on how construction is moving along.
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Gusey
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I do think how Disney views the Olympics is going to influence some of the construction timeline. They've already admitted that DLP saw a decrease in attendance in 2024 because of the Paris Olympics. Will they see 2028 as needing something new to prevent attendance decrease like they saw in Paris, or something in 2029 to bring guests back who skipped Disneyland/DCA in 2028 because of the Olympics. Or will they think the Olympics will draw guests to visit Disneyland so they don't need to open anything in 2028??
denyuntilcaught
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I think this will be a matter of hubris on the company based on what happened in Paris. If things - in the broadest sense - remain on track the way they are, travel costs will remain uber expensive, people will be more selective about where they go and how they spend, and international tourists in general are very, very wary about America due to our current politics. All of these are factors that Paris didn't have to deal with, at least not to the extent the 2028 games might.
If I were TWDC, I'd rather over-prepare and have a solid attraction slated for a 2028 launch because, best case scenario, you have a gangbusters year at the gate due to high-attendance at top dollar, driven by the combo of Olympics tourism and a new attraction.
Worst case scenario, you have no new attraction, park fatigue, high costs preventing people coming, and an economic downturn - a company that dropped the ball on a huge opportunity, twice.
Phroobar
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If Avatar land is 2030, why close Monsters in so early next year? They still need to build the new parking structure before razing the bus load/unload area and finally getting to the Monsters and WWTBAM building. One would think they could get another year out of Monsters Inc before demo.
I am fairly certain one of our numbers people before the Paris Olympics (might have been parentsof4) noted that typically locations see a decrease in attendance during the olympics, so for many this was not a surprise effect of the olympics. I am fairly whoever gave the data had some good explanations for it. But I think one can understand the reasoning if they think about it enough. One factor I would see is that people are spending a lot of money to come to an area to watch the largest sporting event over 4 years - they typically aren't setting aside some of their money for other things (not everybody falls into this category, but certainly a majority do). I would think you would see a bigger bump from a thing like the World Cup as games for a home country are played less often, so people are often looking for filler activities.
PiratesMansion
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Cost Savings.
Disney Irish
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If 2030 is the timeline for Avatar with an assumed 2027 construction start. Well then 2026 will be the year of the EGW build out. This includes not only the parking structure but the pedestrian bridge and new Harbor entrance plaza.
The idea around here has been that they need a temporary entrance area and walkway while building the new one. So that is probably why Monsters is closing “early”.
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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Since Avatar is not even taking up the whole backlot, part of me wonders if a 2029 debut is still doable.
Gusey
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Is it not taking up all of.the Backlot (other than PhilarMagic whose entrance is no longer in the Backlot) and the.bus loop behind?
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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BrianLo
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I’m still on the “it’s possible-” side of “2029” for Avatar. The original came to be in 40 months. So it depends on how seriously things take off, but they really need the bus loops to “take off”.
Now that said, an unannounced 2029 Disneyland project also could be a possibility. I sort of see Disney in a current headspace where they want a major attraction annually at DLR and 2 at WDW (with some consistent minor-moderate projects at all four of their Florida parks).
Historically 5 years ahead of time is a little early for a D23 to be talking ahead about projects, but for a variety of reasons Avatar and Villains were discussed prematurely. Just to say a lack of announcement for a 2029 Disneyland project circa 2024 wouldn’t be altogether meaningful that one doesn’t exist. In the same way WDW could very well sneak in something major pre villains.
Now that said, an unannounced 2029 Disneyland project also could be a possibility. I sort of see Disney in a current headspace where they want a major attraction annually at DLR and 2 at WDW (with some consistent minor-moderate projects at all four of their Florida parks).
Historically 5 years ahead of time is a little early for a D23 to be talking ahead about projects, but for a variety of reasons Avatar and Villains were discussed prematurely. Just to say a lack of announcement for a 2029 Disneyland project circa 2024 wouldn’t be altogether meaningful that one doesn’t exist. In the same way WDW could very well sneak in something major pre villains.
Disney Irish
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As I understand it Avatar is taking up all of the backlot except Phils. The only thing that may remain in my opinion is some of the facades facing Hollywood Blvd to block land sight lines.
As for opening 2029 is possible, but I think everyone has settled in on 2030 or even 2031 given a 3ish year construction window.
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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To me 2030 would be the latest Avatar would open. The 2031-2032 timeframe would be all on the first phase of Simba.
Disney Irish
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It’s possible, it all depends on when they start construction on the land itself. If it starts any later than 2027 we’re looking at 2031.
Absolutely.
And anyone planning a visit not for the Olympics will avoid that period like the plague. Higher travel and hotel costs etc
I'm thinking DAK nighttime show.
I also suspect a lot of local DL summer attendees will take vacations outside of LA while the Olympics are in town, meaning they'll spend their vacation money elsewhere that year instead.