That is because you're still trying to view them independent of each other rather than complimentary. There is a reason Disney markets its as Disneyland Resort rather than two separate Parks, its because they are symbiotic. Disney doesn't seem them separately so we shouldn't either. DL and DCA work together, even if you don't see the value in one. Its why the numbers show that even if DCA has a lower gate clicks than DL it still is the 5th most popular Park in the US above every Uni Park including Orlando. And its numbers went UP in 2024 while Uni's went DOWN. That is why you should take the numbers seriously.
They're certainly willing to charge you separately.
Sure, if you choose to buy a single day single park ticket for them. But a park hopper works just fine as well, meaning you get both for less than the price of two separate tickets. Again whether you personally see value in that or not is beside the point.
As far as choosing which tickets to buy, I can't make sense of their pricing. I just went on their website to plan a hypothetical two-day visit on Nov. 10-11.
Once again whether you see value in it or not is really beside the point. Also we're really way off topic here, maybe we should move this to a separate thread if people want to continue talking about pricing and the value of the Parks and park hoppers.
When did I say that? I said the opposite. I said the costs of my options 1 and 2 should be swapped so the option 2 (which included a park hopper) should be more expensive than the single day tickets (option 1). Currently, their pricing is illogical. Feel free to re-read my post carefully.
I think the reason people see value in park hoppers at DLR is because DCA is not perceived as worth the same price and time-spent as DL, regardless that they are priced equally. So rather than being bored for a few remaining hours at DCA, they want to be able to go over to DL.
The reason this relates to thread's topic is that the whole purpose of adding two attractions to Avenger's Campus is to solve the issues of DCA's lack of offerings. This came from @coffeefan asking:
Excuse me, I phrased it wrong in my post. And let me add, your whole premise makes no logical sense. I'm not sure why you think a two day one park ticket should be cheaper than a single day with park hopper. You are getting access on TWO separate days, what you do with that whether its only DL for both days or DCA for both days or one day in DL and one day in DCA is up to you. But you are accessing the Parks for two separate days. That should by definition should be more expensive because its two separate days of resources being accessed and used, rather than a single day, meaning that Disney by definition has to allocate more of everything on two separate days including labor. This is Business 101.
That makes assumptions that can't be proven though, as you don't know the breakdown of tickets purchased. The only thing we can say for sure is that both single park tickets (whether single day or multi-day) and park hoppers are bought and sold as both are still offered. For all we know more single/multi-day single park tickets are sold and used across both parks than park hoppers, we don't know.
Again that assumes that all don't see DCA as a full day Park, which is clearly not the case just by looking at the attendance numbers.
Except its gotten off into pricing and value, which wasn't part of that post, hence why it should really be its own separate thread.
Nope. You continue to mis-read my original comment and then argue against things I never said.
To be clear, my observation is not that "all" people feel a certain way. Sorry if the wasn't clear. My observation is that when using park hoppers at the Disneyland Resort, and given the opportunity to be in either park equally, I suspect that more people spend more time in Disneyland than Disney California Adventure as compared to people who spend more time in Disney California Adventure over Disneyland. Not "all," but rather "more." I personally suspect a lot more. I think the park hopper is valued, for many, for its ability to allow guests to allocate their visit disproportionately between the parks, DL over DCA.
The poll says under 15% feel it's a complete, well-rounded, full day park right now. This is not good for DCA when the most die-hard Disney theme park fans who can burn an hour in line for a popcorn bucket feel this way. Imagine what tourists who are ambivalent about Disney Parks think.
No, again TWO days of access is MORE than ONE day of access even with a park hopper. So it should be more expensive. You're trying to say you should get a two for one discount on the ticket price just because you want to spread your time out. Again the park hopper is a value-add option. If the park hopper add-on to a single day ticket made it more expensive than a two day single park, then no one would buy the park hopper. And maybe that is your point, but that is ridiculous. That is punishing the people who want to just come for a single day and experience both Parks. And why should they pay more just because you don't see value in the park hopper.
Well again that is an assumption based on that limited observations that can't be proven. Since we don't know the break down of any of it we can't really make those assumptions about the make up of how guests are allocating their time. Nor can we say with any certainty how the park hopper is perceived among guests beyond its value as an add-on.
You're really a glass half empty type of person aren't you.
I've read it about 15 times now. And its still a bad stance and ridiculous. Because you can't expect someone to pay MORE for a park hopper for a single day just because someone else wants to spread their time out over multiple days. That is literally trying to punish someone who wants to come for a single day but still try to experience both Parks.
