EPCOT Test Track to be reimagined

[Ayla]

doesn’t really take away from the ride either way

Of course it does.

 

[HMF]

doesn’t really take away from the ride either way

Neither does the broken Yeti, apparently.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Of course it does.

k

 

[HMF]

k

I know you are ok with declining maintenance standards but a good chunk of us aren't

 

[Centauri Space Station]

I know you are ok with declining maintenance standards but a good chunk of us aren't

So the doors being broken for several years on TT are suddenly a new problem

 

[HMF]

So the doors being broken for several years on TT are suddenly a new problem

Maybe it's not new but it's a problem. The Yeti has been broken even longer than that, Nearly two decades. Are we just supposed to accept mediocrity from Disney?

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Are we just supposed to accept mediocrity from Disney?

Of course, you negative hater!

 

[jah4955]

So the doors being broken for several years on TT are suddenly a new problem

Based on videos it seems broken doors did not detract from last indoor scene of 2.0 as much as they do from 3.0.

 

[DisneyCane]

Based on videos it seems broken doors did not detract from last indoor scene of 2.0 as much as they do from 3.0.

Are there videos with them working?

 

[HMF]

Of course, you negative hater!

It's a pity the late Al Lutzs' Defenders of Mediocrity logo appears to have disappeared from the web.

 

[monothingie]

I'd imagine an automatic door is something much simpler to repair than a complicated AA.

Either way it's more Ambitious but Rubbish Imagineering from WDI.

 

[dmc493]

I'd imagine an automatic door is something much simpler to repair than a complicated AA.

Either way it's more Ambitious but Rubbish Imagineering from WDI.

"rubbish imagineering" for a door effect that's been in use since 1999 and hasn't changed? yeah no I'd wager this is a park ops or another group holding it back - they don't want to close the ride to fix, don't have the parts to fix, something legal is involved that's making fixing it harder from a liability perspective, etc idk choose your own adventure

 

[monothingie]

"rubbish imagineering" for a door effect that's been in use since 1999 and hasn't changed? yeah no I'd wager this is a park ops or another group holding it back - they don't want to close the ride to fix, don't have the parts to fix, something legal is involved that's making fixing it harder from a liability perspective, etc idk choose your own adventure

So WDI through a multimillion dollar retheme is incapable of fixing or designing an automatic door integral to the grand finale show scene.

Got it!

Just blame ops says the person with no standards.

 

[dmc493]

I just threw out multiple scenarios of why it might not be fixed, it's disappointing sure, I'm just saying it might not be WDI's fault. chill

 

[mergatroid]

So WDI through a multimillion dollar retheme is incapable of fixing or designing an automatic door integral to the grand finale show scene.

Got it!

Just blame ops says the person with no standards.

I thought that they'd 'fixed' the door and that shortly after it just reopened that a ride vehicle drove into it and it didn't open, destroying the door and fortunately not injuring anyone? That being the case the initial 'fix' didn't work and so whatever the mechanism and safety back ups they'd installed failed so I'd imagine that they'd have to redesign something new and couldn't just refit a system that failed?

I'm sure I read that on here about the incident but it's such a big thread I've not attempted to look for the post, perhaps somebody can confirm?

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I thought that they'd 'fixed' the door and that shortly after it just reopened that a ride vehicle drove into it and it didn't open, destroying the door and fortunately not injuring anyone? That being the case the initial 'fix' didn't work and so whatever the mechanism and safety back ups they'd installed failed so I'd imagine that they'd have to redesign something new and couldn't just refit a system that failed?

I'm sure I read that on here about the incident but it's such a big thread I've not attempted to look for the post, perhaps somebody can confirm?

What I'm gathering from this thread is that it's self-evidently all very simple to design and fix, but those bumbling Imagineers just can't seem to get anything right.

 

[mergatroid]

What I'm gathering from this thread is that it's self-evidently all very simple to design and fix, but those bumbling Imagineers just can't seem to get anything right.

I've got to be honest and say as neither a designer or imagineer I have no idea how to make a safe successful door to open as a ride vehicle approaches it with zero chance of the vehicle hitting it. I'm sure somebody said on here that within days of opening this year that a ride vehicle hit the door which basically means that something about that design went wrong. You'd like to think that it could be made to work but alterations would need to be made and tested first but as you inferred, I think some people think it's an easy overnight fix

It could be that somebody has just said "Nah leave it and save money" however I'd guess if the accident story is real that perhaps they're taking the safer approach rather than risk another accident that could hurt somebody and trying to come up with a solution they think safe before implementing it?

 

[Biff215]

I've got to be honest and say as neither a designer or imagineer I have no idea how to make a safe successful door to open as a ride vehicle approaches it with zero chance of the vehicle hitting it. I'm sure somebody said on here that within days of opening this year that a ride vehicle hit the door which basically means that something about that design went wrong. You'd like to think that it could be made to work but alterations would need to be made and tested first but as you inferred, I think some people think it's an easy overnight fix

It could be that somebody has just said "Nah leave it and save money" however I'd guess if the accident story is real that perhaps they're taking the safer approach rather than risk another accident that could hurt somebody and trying to come up with a solution they think safe before implementing it?

No effect is perfect but it has managed to work a majority of the time since 1999. It worked as designed though when it does fail.

I fear this latest incident might have given them a reason to finally scrap it completely, which would be a shame.

 

[ChrisFL]

Sort of unique idea of how to minimize the issue a bit? add a longer cover over more of the outdoor track just for the first few hundred feet. It would still be bright but possibly less bright...but this is still way more work/cost than just...you know, replacing the doors.

 

[mergatroid]

No effect is perfect but it has managed to work a majority of the time since 1999. It worked as designed though when it does fail.

I fear this latest incident might have given them a reason to finally scrap it completely, which would be a shame.

Until it didn't. Did they change the design before the 'incident' recently? If not they could be bound legally to change the design similar to how changes are made to cars and planes etc when accidents happen and the blame lies somewhere in the design process even though they may have ben safe for decades until that problem occurred.

I genuinely have no idea but I'm just pointing out that perhaps for safety reasons that Disney are unhappy with the design where the accident happened. Perhaps they're just being cheap or taking the easy option, I'm not discounting that but genuinely don't know.