HMF
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I hope you are right. I have been waiting for almost 20 years now.
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EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment
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HMF
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Even more shameful that the 94 version could have run a few more years and not seem horribly outdated until the 2010s.
MerlinTheGoat
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In many ways SSE94 is not even horrible outdated at all, I would argue it has aged far better tech wise than the 07 one. We've only just now gotten to a point where fiber optic is finally starting to be adopted by consumer telecommunications. Video calls between family and friends from across the globe also took a while to catch on and STILL aren't entirely widespread for general use (people still mostly opt for audio only or chat via text). People being glued to a screen is relevant regardless of what said screen may look like, so they got that part right.
Aside from the outfits the characters are wearing and the designs of the video device props, it holds up quite well. And those outdated elements would have been VERY easy and quick to fix without even needing some huge overhaul as the current one does. Just redress the characters and swap out the more chonky CRT looking devices with flat widescreen displays (tablets basically). Very very minimal and could have lasted for who knows how long.
Aside from the outfits the characters are wearing and the designs of the video device props, it holds up quite well. And those outdated elements would have been VERY easy and quick to fix without even needing some huge overhaul as the current one does. Just redress the characters and swap out the more chonky CRT looking devices with flat widescreen displays (tablets basically). Very very minimal and could have lasted for who knows how long.
HMF
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The only aspect that was dating SSE94 at the end of it's lifespan was the one line about greeting the 21st Century that could have been easily edited.
Cmdr_Crimson
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New Figment shirt using the old press footage image of original Figment from JII being sold at Creations in Epcot..
Streetway Again
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Not just that, a sweater and a hat. I think a new line of figment merch must be coming out today
Figments Friend
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Figures these launch as soon as I am back home after being on Property last weekend.
Du’oh!
Not sure what to think of the shirt with the original AA Figment on it…kind of….a…odd choice.
The sweatshirt is an obvious 80s throwback, when white shirts with huge graphics were ‘in’.
Doesn’t do anything for me, and I am a 80s kinda dragon.
Pass.
The hat is the best of the three new offerings, in my opinion.
But I will stick with my originals from 1982, thanks.
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Du’oh!
Not sure what to think of the shirt with the original AA Figment on it…kind of….a…odd choice.
The sweatshirt is an obvious 80s throwback, when white shirts with huge graphics were ‘in’.
Doesn’t do anything for me, and I am a 80s kinda dragon.
Pass.
The hat is the best of the three new offerings, in my opinion.
But I will stick with my originals from 1982, thanks.
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V_L_Raptor
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At least it’s the classic art, rather than the new, “edgy” MMRR style.
Homemade Imagineering
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Always makes me feel better knowing the original Figment AAs were saved. Was incredible getting to see those up close at the Van Eaton auctionsNew Figment shirt using the old press footage image of original Figment from JII being sold at Creations in Epcot..
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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MAJOR WANT! Also MAJOR PROPS to the merch team behind this stuff. Perfectly on model and in the right spirit for the character.
Cmdr_Crimson
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No thanks, Threshold animation studio who made that version is just...off?
But then again this is same studio that produced this Nightmare Fuel....
I can smell the 2002 horrid cheapness now......
jah4955
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You just gave extra proof to my theory imo....Disney primarily cares about Figment as far as he can push selling "cute" merch. But to be fair...this was cute too (+++++++++).
Rodj
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Not sure where the correlation came from with that CGI design and "Cartoony Figment".
I'll chime in too that I am not really a fan of the animatronic design of Figment either, it's too "realistic" looking IMO. If Figment is about imagination, why should his design follow the "ultra-realistic dragon features/texture" design trope?
My favorite design for Figment in 2D has been from the 2014(and some newer) artwork such as the art on the new sweatshirt. The 50th statue is IMO the perfect Figment design in 3D, and what I hope is referenced for future Figment animatronics.
Cmdr_Crimson
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It was the only computer animated one being used throughout the tour...With the exception of the animated ones that were playing on his TV in his upside down house that is much better animation .
Brer Panther
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Honestly, the Threshold Animation Figment may not be PIXAR-quality, but it's at least better-looking than Foodfight!.
Heck, I'd even go so far as to say it's less uncanny-looking than the CGI characters in Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
Heck, I'd even go so far as to say it's less uncanny-looking than the CGI characters in Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
HMF
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That isn't a high standard.
MerlinTheGoat
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Didn't think i'd see Foodfight mentioned on this forum...
The CGI Figment animates better than the Foodfight characters do at least. They used copious amounts of mo-cap in that movie, bizarrely mixed in with exaggerated squash and stretch simulations (earlier trailers seemingly lacked the mo-cap and had less hideous character movement). Figment's animations are more subtle and seemingly hand-done. Though that's about all i'll give it. At least he's not a human design, those are the worst looking ones in Foodfight. But the model quality still looks about as bad as the animal characters from it.
Threshold is a bizarre company. Allegedly a lot of their issues were blamed on their owner, who according to their staff was an idiot who doesn't know anything about how animation works. I believe this is partially true. At the same time (and even ignoring Pixar and other higher end animation studios), it's also insane that you have vastly older CGI animation such as VeggieTales and even the Donkey Kong Country TV series that came out looking better (the DK show looks weird and uncanny too but less so than Foodfight). And those were lower budget TV shows that had to crank out dozens of episodes in a short amount of time...
The CGI Figment animates better than the Foodfight characters do at least. They used copious amounts of mo-cap in that movie, bizarrely mixed in with exaggerated squash and stretch simulations (earlier trailers seemingly lacked the mo-cap and had less hideous character movement). Figment's animations are more subtle and seemingly hand-done. Though that's about all i'll give it. At least he's not a human design, those are the worst looking ones in Foodfight. But the model quality still looks about as bad as the animal characters from it.
Threshold is a bizarre company. Allegedly a lot of their issues were blamed on their owner, who according to their staff was an idiot who doesn't know anything about how animation works. I believe this is partially true. At the same time (and even ignoring Pixar and other higher end animation studios), it's also insane that you have vastly older CGI animation such as VeggieTales and even the Donkey Kong Country TV series that came out looking better (the DK show looks weird and uncanny too but less so than Foodfight). And those were lower budget TV shows that had to crank out dozens of episodes in a short amount of time...
Cmdr_Crimson
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Interestingly what there Reel shows and some look familiar including the Hershey 4d show, Epcot's Mission: Space and former Star Trek Borg Invasion from the old Vegas Star Trek Experience....