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MK All-New Nighttime Parade Disney Starlight Set to Debut at Magic Kingdom in 2025

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
All the ground performers besides the royal court dancers have been missing from the first showing of the parade for weeks, they always come back for the second performance. So what's that about? I'm hoping/speculating that it's because they're getting new costumes or choreography? So maybe they're rehursering during the first show? Or their props just aren't working but that doesn't make any sense since the Moana wave dancers are also missing and they don't have any light up props anymore. Whatever the reason is it's just another thing they need to fix with this parade, along with getting Peter and Wendy flying.

That’s odd. Sounds like a scheduling issue then? But that’s bad show… despite the ground performers already being bad show.
 

TTA94

Well-Known Member
GSATs are strong and, importantly, ops has relearned how to run a park with fireworks sandwiched between light parades.

I mean, it doesn’t take much to please the average WDW guest and that’s the problem with a lot of things at WDW. We will never know but if Starlight was at Disneyland it would be interesting to see if the stats would still be strong.
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
I mean, it doesn’t take much to please the average WDW guest and that’s the problem with a lot of things at WDW. We will never know but if Starlight was at Disneyland it would be interesting to see if the stats would still be strong.
Thats why i was curious if its moving any attendance needles as expected… as you said doesnt take much to please
 

AxolotlTales

Well-Known Member
I mean, it doesn’t take much to please the average WDW guest
I think those poll readings a few pages back proves that, but these guests don't read into this that much because they either don't care or ignore it so it would make sense under that. I doubt Disneyland's scores would deviate that much off given the already abysmal state of entertainment they have there now.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Thats why i was curious if its moving any attendance needles as expected… as you said doesnt take much to please
They didn’t want this to increase MK attendance so much as evening satisfaction. And, of course, light-up toy sales.

They’re pleased with the results. Interestingly, most guests think it’s the right length for a parade. I guess they don’t want to sit through 40 minutes of floats. Good thing…a longer parade would make it hard to run HEA an hour later.
 

Starship824

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
I doubt Disneyland's scores would deviate that much off given the already abysmal state of entertainment they have there now.
This. They only run one parade at a time and the Disneyland guests have rose colored glasses on about cause they have PTN back. What happens when PTN ends and they bring back MH with no nighttime parade? Will the same comparisons about Starlight being lackluster in comparison be made when they pack up PTN for another 5-10 years and run the, lets be honest mediocre MH.
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
This. They only run one parade at a time and the Disneyland guests have rose colored glasses on about cause they have PTN back. What happens when PTN ends and they bring back MH with no nighttime parade? Will the same comparisons about Starlight being lackluster in comparison be made when they pack up PTN for another 5-10 years and run the, lets be honest mediocre MH.

Magic Happens is a fantastic parade, and far stronger than the abysmal state Festival of Fantasy is in.

The entertainment cuts Disneyland has faced is ridiculous, unforgivable really.

But perhaps the power of that park would be too strong if they ran two GREAT parades vs Magic Kingdom running two... okay parades. Gotta keep Disneyland in check somehow, she dare not outshine Magic Kingdom. ;)
 

Starship824

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Magic Happens is a fantastic parade
To each their own, the music doesn't blend well in my opinion and the floats aren't very good either. The costumes and choreography are great though. The Coco float and last float are good but the rest... Sure MH is better than current FoF but that's not a high bar. But like I said I do think the costumes and choreography in MH is great.
 

jrhwdw

Well-Known Member
GSATs are strong and, importantly, ops has relearned how to run a park with fireworks sandwiched between light parades.
Outside of Parties.......Thank God!!!!!!!
They didn’t want this to increase MK attendance so much as evening satisfaction. And, of course, light-up toy sales.

They’re pleased with the results. Interestingly, most guests think it’s the right length for a parade. I guess they don’t want to sit through 40 minutes of floats. Good thing…a longer parade would make it hard to run HEA an hour later.
MSEP & Spectro was never 40min.....


Yes, Starlight isn't Perfect,(Still no Lighted Waves or Flying by Peter and Wendy) BUT I'm still Beyond Happy July 18th Happened!!!!!!!! July 19th for MK's Signature Schedule!!! :) :) :) :) :)
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
Is there a way to see all the “guest scores”?

Whenever Disney has another middling at best offering the first line of defense is the “guest scores”.

I want to see what it takes to have a bad guest score. Does it have to be something historically awful? For a parade to have a bad guest score does it literally have to make small children cry in fear?
 

AxolotlTales

Well-Known Member
Is there a way to see all the “guest scores”?

Whenever Disney has another middling at best offering the first line of defense is the “guest scores”.

I want to see what it takes to have a bad guest score. Does it have to be something historically awful? For a parade to have a bad guest score does it literally have to make small children cry in fear?
They probably wouldn't even do any type of testing to get those scores if it was really awful. Probably wouldn't have even passed bluesky at this point. As long as the "popular" characters are in it it's at least getting a 3/5 from an average guest. No clue how they go about sampling the statistics though for it to be truly correct.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
They probably wouldn't even do any type of testing to get those scores if it was really awful. Probably wouldn't have even passed bluesky at this point. As long as the "popular" characters are in it it's at least getting a 3/5 from an average guest. No clue how they go about sampling the statistics though for it to be truly correct.
On a scale of x/5, Starlight scores around 4.5 BTW.

They have numerous statisticians. And while they may have flaws, WDW is great at making money.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
On a scale of x/5, Starlight scores around 4.5 BTW.

They have numerous statisticians. And while they may have flaws, WDW is great at making money.

TDO vs. Guests:

Asks Black Friday GIF
 

TheMaxRebo

Well-Known Member
I know it scored that, I saw the chart. From a very analytical point it hits every mark and was very easily going to reach above a 3.

I get that - but is a bit of a gap b/w 3 and 4.5 - I think a lot of people really like it - doesn't mean it is perfect or the best night time parade they have had (which historically have basically all been amazing, so even the lowest of them can be a really good parade)
 

Comped

Well-Known Member
They have numerous statisticians.
Having worked with data for years, the old adage about data being able to say whatever you want it to say however you want it to say it is pretty applicable here. They may have a lot of statisticians, Lord knows I have applied to enough openings, but I have a feeling they may not be writing completely unbiased questions or creating the most unbiased reports. Easier to fire one analyst than redo a parade.
 

AxolotlTales

Well-Known Member
I get that - but is a bit of a gap b/w 3 and 4.5 - I think a lot of people really like it - doesn't mean it is perfect or the best night time parade they have had (which historically have basically all been amazing, so even the lowest of them can be a really good parade)
A 3/5 is where it would range to break even from being poorly viewed and highly viewed which is why I referred to it. People liking this parade or not would be an opinion that all shows have and I can respect that. The actual quality of Starlight with other DLE projects is a fact.
 

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