Bocabear
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The water pageant could be used as an upcharge for the new MK Fantasy Springs Hotel...Showing exclusively to guests at that hotel...for an extra $49.99 per guest. *cupcake $19.99 extra.
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Rumor Potential New Magic Kingdom Area Hotel
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I can't even imagine what a DVC resort with direct access into magic kingdom would sell for per point... Throw in 30% cash rooms...
Timeline is kind of adding up... once lakeshore lodge, Cars, and Villains are done... start this one.
Timeline is kind of adding up... once lakeshore lodge, Cars, and Villains are done... start this one.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Yes, and its the best hotel in the entire company.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
How bad are the backstage views from the rooms?
gorillaball
Well-Known Member
Not bad there, because it was originally designed with that in mind. MK would be very tricky, not many places outside to get a decent view, not that they’d be willing to build on anyway.
NeedMoreMickey
Well-Known Member
What is JHMP?
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Its not really comparable to WDW, because you're used to seeing the backstage/unthemed/off property areas from all the hotels in the area. Disneyland Hotel and Pixar Pier Hotel are definitely worse at what you can see than GCH. And of course the neighboring hotels don't really care.
If you're in the wing towards Pixar Pier near Goofy's Sky School, you can see all the backstage areas down below you.
If you're on the side near Downtown Disney you can't really see much of anything (in terms of backstage). Also the area directly over the Grizzly Peak area completely faces the park, so you don't see much unless you're really looking to do so.
But if you're on the porte-cochere side of the hotel you're facing over Disneyland Drive, which means you're looking at a pretty busy normal city street (albeit with Pixar Pier Hotel and Disneyland Hotel in front of you). They do what they can to hide the street with trees.
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lentesta
Premium Member
That was me! And I have to thank our heavenly father Bioreconstruct for the photos.
I was talking with some Imagineers earlier this month. One of them mentioned that the opening of Helios at Epic got management to ask for another look at park-adjacent hotel projects. And that included the potental resort at the front of EPCOT, in the area currently occupied by the Bus Lot Staging and Bus Service Facility:
A few days later, one of my Central Florida commercial construction folks mentioned there was an unusual amount of survey activity in the area between the Grand Flo and the MK, roughly here:
Bioreconstruct provided images of the work area for Frontierland for context:
Bio also said that to the best of his knowledge, no land used for work areas has ever later been developed into a resort. So that's worth keeping in mind.
In looking at the MK photo from Bio:
- The canal in the middle is the daytime home of the Electrical Water Pageant. I don't think that's going anywhere.
- A hotel in the work area that's directly west of Adventureland would have views of show buildings and infrastructure. That's not ideal.
- But the area north of that, near Frontierland, has potential.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
That was me! And I have to thank our heavenly father Bioreconstruct for the photos.
I was talking with some Imagineers earlier this month. One of them mentioned that the opening of Helios at Epic got management to ask for another look at park-adjacent hotel projects. And that included the potental resort at the front of EPCOT, in the area currently occupied by the Bus Lot Staging and Bus Service Facility:
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A few days later, one of my Central Florida commercial construction folks mentioned there was an unusual amount of survey activity in the area between the Grand Flo and the MK, roughly here:
Bioreconstruct provided images of the work area for Frontierland for context:
View attachment 872530
Bio also said that to the best of his knowledge, no land used for work areas has ever later been developed into a resort. So that's worth keeping in mind.
In looking at the MK photo from Bio:
So I don't think there are firm plans yet. But interest in the idea of a park-adjacent hotel.
- The canal in the middle is the daytime home of the Electrical Water Pageant. I don't think that's going anywhere.
- A hotel in the work area that's directly west of Adventureland would have views of show buildings and infrastructure. That's not ideal.
- But the area north of that, near Frontierland, has potential.
If there aren't plans for something in the orange circled area then I am not sure why they would be re-routing Floridian way.
Wes Tacker
Well-Known Member
@lentesta what is that work being done next to Adventureland/Frontierland?That was me! And I have to thank our heavenly father Bioreconstruct for the photos.
I was talking with some Imagineers earlier this month. One of them mentioned that the opening of Helios at Epic got management to ask for another look at park-adjacent hotel projects. And that included the potental resort at the front of EPCOT, in the area currently occupied by the Bus Lot Staging and Bus Service Facility:
View attachment 872529
A few days later, one of my Central Florida commercial construction folks mentioned there was an unusual amount of survey activity in the area between the Grand Flo and the MK, roughly here:
Bioreconstruct provided images of the work area for Frontierland for context:
View attachment 872530
Bio also said that to the best of his knowledge, no land used for work areas has ever later been developed into a resort. So that's worth keeping in mind.
In looking at the MK photo from Bio:
So I don't think there are firm plans yet. But interest in the idea of a park-adjacent hotel.
- The canal in the middle is the daytime home of the Electrical Water Pageant. I don't think that's going anywhere.
- A hotel in the work area that's directly west of Adventureland would have views of show buildings and infrastructure. That's not ideal.
- But the area north of that, near Frontierland, has potential.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
That's the staging areas for the Cars and Villains projects.
lentesta
Premium Member
It's the workspace for Cars Land and (eventually) Villains Land. Moving dirt in and out, staging equipment, and the like.
If they were to build it with Villain's in mind (like they did with grizzly peak) you can easily make the view just into the park.
lentesta
Premium Member
Right???!?
That's the same reason why I suspect the Western Way work is going to lead to something. They're not spending $100MM to improve commute times for cast members.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
IMO, that strip behind the Big Thunder and Liberty Belle maintenance areas makes more sense to eventually be an additional land. It could bridge the gap between the Adventureland expansion pad and Frontierland station since those would’ve already cleared the train tracks. If you were to build more park there, it could also be constructed with good show angles to the northwest, mitigating views of the maintenance area for a hotel to be built on the opposite side of the Floridian roads instead.
Brian
Well-Known Member
It will also help with the GF parking scarcity. Though I also suspect there is more to it than that.
Trueblood
Well-Known Member
I fear I've become cynical; the first thing that came to mind was "you mean park-adjacent DVC."
Ayla
Well-Known Member
Oh, but MisterPenguin has assured us that they are being built at the same time.
lentesta
Premium Member
Also what I'm thinking. But Lakeshore Lodge is mixed, so not 100% sure.