MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[TrainsOfDisney]

Before the announcement I remember some fans complaining about Coco maybe going in Frontierland. I think Disney saw this and went with Cars to avoid outrage.

This is satire correct? Who would be “outraged” by coco? Unless you are getting into politics?

 

[el_super]

I'm sure everyone was saying the same thing back when it first closed in 2018 (I think?). And in 2019. And in 2020. And in 2021. And in 2022.

You can see where I'm going here, right?

Yeah. I think that just proves the river was a bigger drain on resources and a bigger problem that needed to be prioritized.

 

[el_super]

It actually does when it’s called Frontierland? But I guess since you say it doesn’t matter, that means you don’t have one. If they were going to gut one of the central parts of the park, they could have at least found an IP that actually belonged.

They absolutely should have ditched the theme for Frontierland but it seems they wanted to try to preserve some of their history. They do sometimes make mistakes.

 

[psherman42]

Yeah, and I think a big part of Pandora is being able to walk through it. This will largely be a blocked off area for a ride so any visuals will be viewed from a distance.

Yeah. People have mentioned how much space this will open up for guests to walk and rest and explore and I really think they’re overestimating how much open space there will be. And if there is a lot of open space, then that means the ride is likely smaller and probably underwhelming.

I don't think Cars Piston Peak would fit in the Stitch building.

Well, duh. But they could have either brought Stitch back or found a suitable alternative to replace it. Then worried about Frontierland later.

 

[ToTBellHop]

This is satire correct? Who would be “outraged” by coco? Unless you are getting into politics?

The Coco ride seemed cool.

 

[WorldExplorer]

People could argue about Coco, but it would've been better than Cars just because Cars is so blatantly dumb.

If this was two years ago, you could use "Disney planning Cars expansion in Frontierland" as an April Fools joke.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yeah. I think that just proves the river was a bigger drain on resources and a bigger problem that needed to be prioritized.

If the rivers attractions were not being used by enough guests - they would have become seasonal attractions. Nothing was forcing Disney to open them each day.

 

[peter11435]

If the rivers attractions were not being used by enough guests - they would have become seasonal attractions. Nothing was forcing Disney to open them each day.

The river was originally home to 4 water based attractions with 12 vehicles. You’re correct that they didn’t go seasonal but they cut that down to just 2 attractions with 1 riverboat and 3 rafts. Most days they only operated 2 rafts. They also cut back their hours significantly. Not opening until 11 and closing significantly earlier than necessary. The river attractions were not being used by enough guests even with their significantly reduced capacity and hours.

 

[Incomudro]

Exactly what part?

You do realize that’s why Disney world exists right?

Then why didn't Disneyworld start out like that?
Why was it designed with all of the water - there used to be more of it around the castle, all of the scenic vistas?
Why wasn't it designed to be jammed with rides?

 

[Incomudro]

A problem for Disney. I realize that’s not our problem as guests. But why would you expect any company to spend money on something guests mostly aren’t using.

My 300 guests using a capacity of 1000 was an example. Although it’s actually very close to an accurate representation of the Riverboat.

They didn’t suddenly decide this was a problem. They’ve been looking at this problem for 30 years but never committed the funds to fix it until now.

Because guests come to the parks and spend money anyway.
Why destroy scenic areas just to wring more money out of them, and continue to destroy what made the park special?

 

[peter11435]

Then why didn't Disneyworld start out like that?
Why was it designed with all of the water - there used to be more of it around the castle, all of the scenic vistas?
Why wasn't it designed to be jammed with rides?

This has nothing to do with being jammed with rides. That wasn’t the point.

Even in 1971 they would have removed attractions if they weren’t popular enough to justify keeping them.

The point you were replying to was that Disney world exists to make money. Always has and always will. How has and will continue to evolve.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Because guests come to the parks and spend money anyway.
Why destroy scenic areas just to wring more money out of them, and continue to destroy what made the park special?

Well they of course do want to make more money but they also want to make the parks more special to more people - just may be different people

Outside of boards like these the vast majority of people I know are very excited about this change.

The end product will show if the trade off for more guests was worth it or not ... But just b/c something changes doesn't mean it will be worse - it could be better, but time will tell

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Then why didn't Disneyworld start out like that?
Why was it designed with all of the water - there used to be more of it around the castle, all of the scenic vistas?
Why wasn't it designed to be jammed with rides?

It's almost like maybe, people cared about Tom Sawyer and Davy Crocket 50 years ago and don't anymore.

 

[Incomudro]

It's almost like maybe, people cared about Tom Sawyer and Davy Crocket 50 years ago and don't anymore.

I'm not talking about the subject matter.
I am talking about Disney's choice to create an aesthetic of calm, and openness.

 

[Incomudro]

This has nothing to do with being jammed with rides. That wasn’t the point.

Even in 1971 they would have removed attractions if they weren’t popular enough to justify keeping them.

The point you were replying to was that Disney world exists to make money. Always has and always will. How has and will continue to evolve.

Disney back in the day recognized that maximization all there was to the parks.
That's why when you entered Disney Land or World, you got an experience outside any you had ever had before.
There were exciting things, and there were calm and relaxing aesthetics as well.

 

[peter11435]

Disney back in the day recognized that maximization all there was to the parks.
That's why when you entered Disney Land or World, you got an experience outside any you had ever had before.
There were exciting things, and there were calm and relaxing aesthetics as well.

And you still do and there still are…

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

They absolutely should have ditched the theme for Frontierland but it seems they wanted to try to preserve some of their history.

What theme should they have gone with?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Outside of boards like these the vast majority of people I know are very excited about this change.

I mean…. You seem pretty enthusiastic about the change so they may be feeding off of that. Many of my friends in the steam train and antique vehicle community (of all ages) are sad.

But that of course misses the point…. Ideally Disney parks have something for everyone. Ragtime piano and steam trains for me…. And Winnie the Pooh and princesses for others!

 

[MisterPenguin]

RoA should have been replaced with two dozen flat rides.

And cabanas.

 

[Chi84]

And you still do and there still are…

There really are. The only thing that I truly dislike are the paid fast passes.