psherman42
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So that means it has no historical significance or deserves to be gutted for cheap IPs?
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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom
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Disstevefan1
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I apologize for disparaging 6 flags. Disney destroying MK has nothing to do with 6 flags.
lazyboy97o
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It wasn’t. No design work on the Magic Kingdom dates to Walt’s lifetime besides its general location within Disney World. Even during his lifetime he made comments about how he probably wouldn’t be that involved in the Florida park and would largely leave it up to the team at WED.
Casper Gutman
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You relentlessly pretend Disney parks are nothing more then a disconnected series of attractions governed by no design principles or philosophy or any sense of aesthetic or narrative cohesion. It’s such a staggeringly narrow view of the parks.
Casper Gutman
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WDW doesn’t need to be governed by Walt’s vision. It does need to be governed by SOMEONE’S vision, a vision that at the very least understands why things were built the way they were and removes them only in line with a new, cohesive plan.
Dranth
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I don't follow.
Without even getting into how subjective IP can be or that part of the area was already IP, it can be true that MK was a means to an end while also not wanting it to be "gutted for cheap IP". MK can have a history that includes Walt but is its own thing without having to misrepresent what it was originally meant to be.
I think it would be safe to say MK was inspired by Walt. It was done by people that knew and worked for him in his memory but that is NOT the same as saying it was his final dream. It was the thing he had to do to get to the thing he REALLY wanted to do.
MK is not a museum, it was never meant to be a museum, it never will be a museum no matter how much some of us don't like it.
Disstevefan1
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TrainsOfDisney
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While a topic for another day… it could potentially be a museum one day and some could argue it always was.
Dranth
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If I had my way we would have early/mid 90s MK with everything being maintained and in top shape. The only additions would be ones that made sense for their lands and be in actual expansion areas. However, that isn't the reality of a publicly traded company dealing with wildly changing interests, shrinking attention spans and increased competition from every direction for the limited time people have.
JMcMahonEsq
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What type of insane statement is it that the most visited amusement park in the world has any potential at becoming a musuem?
And no, while personal opinions can vary, and there are morons who argue the world is flat, no one can argue WDW has always been a museum.
Chi84
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Not if they look like that!
Raineman
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I didn't realize there were special requirements for posting in this thread. Thanks for the heads up!For this thread:
James Alucobond
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I wasn’t trying to justify it. I just said the comparison made no sense.
TrainsOfDisney
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It would be interesting to do a legit study on what would actually be best for shareholders. We all know an immersive Star Wars hotel wasn’t. And it appears that Star Wars as a whole wasn’t since they cut it from Paris.
What makes it insane. Parts of the Magic Kingdom certainly qualify - Hall of Presidents being the most obvious. The steam train and riverboat were also museum quality pieces as is the horse drawn trolley (when it runs).
On opening day Tomorrowland has science museum style attractions - now it’s just COP that would count.
Also historic music is played daily - I don’t know anywhere else that offers both ragtime piano and barber shop quartet music on a daily basis.
if you have reasons that it can’t be called a museum I would be interested in hearing why.
Chi84
Premium Member
There aren’t except there’s another thread on this very topic and the shirt doesn’t have anything to do with the cars attraction which is the subject of this thread.
JMcMahonEsq
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I mean i could go through historical definitions of museums, but the stupidity of the argument is just boring. So i will just go with actual legal definition in Florida
“Museum” means a public or private not-for-profit agency or institution located in Florida and organized on a permanent basis for primarily educational, scientific, or aesthetic purposes, which owns or utilizes tangible objects, cares for them, and exhibits them to the public on a regular basis.
You can say a lot of things about WDW, but its primary purpose isn't education, and it surely isn't a not-for-profit
Dranth
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Best for shareholders is going to be whatever maximizes revenue and minimizes costs while not sacrificing the future. That last part is where many companies seem to get tripped up either due to not understanding their customers as well as they think or just not caring because it will be another person’s problem to deal with down the line.
As for Star Wars, I don't think the idea of the hotel was bad, but the implementation certainly didn't work and at the price they were asking, it was beyond ridiculous. However, there is still a lot they could do with that IP that would be very popular, but giving it a rest post hotel and ST isn't the worst idea.