MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[TrainsOfDisney]

On that note, how come Disney never does anything big for closures?

I was hoping they’d have some actors / characters out on the island - they have more entertainment on a normal day at Disneyland

Accessible as in ADA?

I'm not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China.

Yes.

You may be right that ADA won’t matter much longer in Florida but that’s another topic! Haha

 

[Raineman]

People utilized TSI and the Riverboat. You’re being silly.

No, no, no-nobody has been on that island since 1983. Didn't you know that? It's like the Rocket Rods/Peoplemover at DL-sitting there empty, and crumbling, like a ghost. In fact, it's the least visited Disney attraction in history. /s

 

[Casper Gutman]

No they didn’t. The entire reason this is happening is because people didn’t.

Yes, people used both attractions. A lot of people. You’re engaging in absurd hyperbole because you’re trying to defend a weak position.

We can discuss the aesthetics that river and the boat brought to that area of the park all day. That is something that can be objectively bantered about. What we can’t do is say those two attractions garnered enough foot traffic that their replacement will actually lower experienced capacity upon completion.

Absolutely no one said the replacement attractions will experience lower capacity. That isn’t the argument I made and it isn’t the argument you’ve been making until now. The point is that removing capacity whenever you add capacity does not demonstrate that you are particularly concerned with increasing capacity.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Here is a look at Frontierland from this morning

Frontierland - July 7, 2025

Frontierland - July 7, 2025

www.wdwmagic.com

Disregarding my feelings on it all, it’s nice to see that they are not wasting any time on getting things going.

 

[mlayton144]

No, no, no-nobody has been on that island since 1983. Didn't you know that? It's like the Rocket Rods/Peoplemover at DL-sitting there empty, and crumbling, like a ghost. In fact, it's the least visited Disney attraction in history. /s

Can you think of another 2 attractions that had less visitation over approx 14 acres ? I can’t.

 

[Casper Gutman]

The design of the space isn’t rooted in some novelty factor.

They’re building a wall to block it off, the very opposite of how the space was laid out. That’s not really a receipt for success, especially when combined with the lousy track record that has persisted for years now.

This is another key point. They can block the entrance to Muppet Courtyard and hope most guests forget about it and, sadly, they probably will. The RoA area will be an unprecedentedly huge and unavoidable eyesore for years, a fact that will keep the closure fresh in guests mind and emphasize the aesthetic damage being done to the area.

 

[Raineman]

Can you think of another 2 attractions that had less visitation over approx 14 acres ? I can’t.

Seeing as we never get accurate attraction visitation numbers from Disney, I wouldn't really know. And my comment was based more on the hyperbole of people saying "no one ever goes there".

 

[DCLcruiser]

This is another key point. They can block the entrance to Muppet Courtyard and hope most guests forget about it and, sadly, they probably will. The RoA area will be an unprecedentedly huge and unavoidable eyesore for years, a fact that will keep the closure fresh in guests mind and emphasize the aesthetic damage being done to the area.

Reminds me of the Sorcerer Hat in DHS.

 

[Dreamer19]

Can you think of another 2 attractions that had less visitation over approx 14 acres ? I can’t.

I know, WDW is running out of space. Gotta squeeze in all of that progress! Tired of all of these Tom Sawyer/Riverboat lovers living in the past.

 

[JohnD]

Reminds me of the Sorcerer Hat in DHS.

I'm not following. Are you referring to its addition or removal? Because the BAH overstayed its welcome.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I know, WDW is running out of space. Gotta squeeze in all of that progress! Tired of all of these Tom Sawyer/Riverboat lovers living in the past.

Unless you own huge amounts of Disney stock, arguing in favor of removing “underutilized” attractions is a baffling position.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Unless you own huge amounts of Disney stock, arguing in favor of removing “underutilized” attractions is a baffling position.

Cue “Disney is a business” and “you don’t understand business” in 3, 2,

 

[Dreamer19]

Cue “Disney is a business” and “you don’t understand business” in 3, 2,

I still think it’s just Bob Iger and Josh Damaro using shadow accounts.

 

[mlayton144]

I know, WDW is running out of space. Gotta squeeze in all of that progress! Tired of all of these Tom Sawyer/Riverboat lovers living in the past.

You are a dreamer ….. and that’s ok

 

[Raineman]

I still thing it’s just Bob Iger and Josh Damaro using shadow accounts.

It really does seem like there are more "it's underutilized space, bad for business" people here than "I like Cars, and I want some Cars attractions" people.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

This is not an accurate placement of Discovery Bay, or at least the version with which most people are familiar. It would have been in the Big Thunder Ranch area and connected to a circus area on the site of today’s Fantasyland Theater.

The image is just from a newspaper puplication around the time the project was proposed, and I only included it to illustrate that docking the riverboat and making it a restaurant is not an unheard of idea. I think Disney should do it!

 

[CoastalElite64]

The design of the space isn’t rooted in some novelty factor.

They’re building a wall to block it off, the very opposite of how the space was laid out. That’s not really a receipt for success, especially when combined with the lousy track record that has persisted for years now.

I'm saying novelty of experience as it correlates with attraction popularity.

I didn't touch on the walls because they are just part of the process.

 

[castlecake2.0]

I think if they can really make this new area look like some version of Grizzly Peak with streams, waterfalls, large trees etc than it will help most people will move on. The problem is you are going to have to get rid of so many mature trees and they will undoubtedly be replaced with fewer and much smaller trees. With so much loss of water, shade and mature trees it’s going to be hard to not feel like the “wilderness” part of Frontierland didn’t get a major downgrade. In no way do I think a Cars D ticket will offset this. This will most likely be viewed as a pretty big downgrade until Villains land opens up. Villains land presents its own set of challenges as well. I’m not sure Disney is going to deliver the type of PG 13 Villains land most people here would want. That new show at DHS doesn’t inspire much confidence.

Disney is actually pretty good at saving and transplanting mature trees. Good example was the MK parking lot expansion, you can see lots of those relocated trees around the new roads in that area. Hoping some are saved from this area too.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Walls are already going up, construction destruction crews already seen.

The haters are happy today.

They created concept renderings and fun maps but only time will tell what we will end up with.

Whatever they are trying to do here, my only hope is this gets done sooner rather than later.

 

[spresso81]

Just came back from visiting MK and was happy to say my good-byes to the river and Liberty Belle. It was so nice to be able to have a relaxing place in the park to walk by or to take a spin on the boat during the day. No matter how good Cars is, you cannot replace that aspect of the ROA nor the iconic scenery.

I also question how they will transition from Cars to Villains.