MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

SMRT-1Michael

Well-Known Member
So is Villains going beyond Big Thunder outside the berm or the back half of RoA? I was holding out for a Thunder Mesa type experience that leveraged the Riverboat (renamed back to Richard F. Irvine) that connects the riverboat more to a Frontierland storyline like DLP. Then using the Riverboat for a re-located Fantasmic that would be part of Villain Land. Pretty amazing compromise if you ask me. It doesn't seem like they are re-located any WDWRR track at ALL.
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
So is Villains going beyond Big Thunder outside the berm or the back half of RoA? I was holding out for a Thunder Mesa type experience that leveraged the Riverboat (renamed back to Richard F. Irvine) that connects the riverboat more to a Frontierland storyline like DLP. Then using the Riverboat for a re-located Fantasmic that would be part of Villain Land. Pretty amazing compromise if you ask me. It doesn't seem like they are re-located any WDWRR track at ALL.
Not past the railroad tracks, but the back half of ROA, a good chunk of the non-river between the tracks and the current river and north of HM.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

Well-Known Member
Heard from the grapevine that the Liberty Belle is....
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I don't know where it'll pop up, but as of now, scrapping it is not in the cards.
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Worth pointing out that the concept of docking the Riverboat and making it a restaurant (quick service or snack stand) is something they've considered for decades, even in Disneyland- the scrapped Discovery Bay land was going to have the Mark Twain and Sailing Ship Columbia permanently docked and used as dining space. Who's to say Magic Kingdom and the Liberty Belle couldn't get the same treatment? Put the riverboat outside TBA, have it sell beignets and mint juleps, maybe have a jazz band that plays on the upper deck for people like in the movie. Great way to save the ship while adding more theming to the TBA area.

What I wanna know is- what's gonna happen to the glowing eye owl animatronic in Harper's Mill? That guy is super charming, I hope he's moved to be outside the Haunted Mansion or something. I love me some simple 70s-era animatronics.
 

Raineman

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure if others that opposed this change are in the same camp as myself, but this would not be as egregious if there was no IP tied to it. If it was just a pacific northwest landscape, with some kind of non-IP based "off-road" attraction traversing it, then it would be alot more palatable, IMO. Maybe even have a small section of explorable caves, as an homage to TSI. I don't want to see TSI/ROA go, but I would be ok with the type of replacement I just mentioned. But it is very obvious that Disney management thinks that only new projects with tied-in IP will make them money, and, with the masses that they are now catering to, they're unfortunately probably right.
 

SMRT-1Michael

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure if others that opposed this change are in the same camp as myself, but this would not be as egregious if there was no IP tied to it. If it was just a pacific northwest landscape, with some kind of non-IP based "off-road" attraction traversing it, then it would be alot more palatable, IMO. Maybe even have a small section of explorable caves, as an homage to TSI. I don't want to see TSI/ROA go, but I would be ok with the type of replacement I just mentioned. But it is very obvious that Disney management thinks that only new projects with tied-in IP will make them money, and, with the masses that they are now catering to, they're unfortunately probably right.
Agreed 100%
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
This annoys me because it's not really beyond Thunder. The wasted potential. Meanwhile at Disneyland................
This has been beaten to death in this and the villains land thread... but the logistics of getting back to villains land would have been difficult if they didn't at least majorly alter the ROA. It was for sure possible, but some combination of reasons told disney this was the correct path forward.
 

SMRT-1Michael

Well-Known Member
This has been beaten to death in this and the villains land thread... but the logistics of getting back to villains land would have been difficult if they didn't at least majorly alter the ROA. It was for sure possible, but some combination of reasons told disney this was the correct path forward.
Gee thanks. Back to not replying in these forums for another 5-7 years.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure if others that opposed this change are in the same camp as myself, but this would not be as egregious if there was no IP tied to it. If it was just a pacific northwest landscape, with some kind of non-IP based "off-road" attraction traversing it, then it would be alot more palatable, IMO. Maybe even have a small section of explorable caves, as an homage to TSI. I don't want to see TSI/ROA go, but I would be ok with the type of replacement I just mentioned. But it is very obvious that Disney management thinks that only new projects with tied-in IP will make them money, and, with the masses that they are now catering to, they're unfortunately probably right.
It sold a ton of merch in the 2000’s!

Under that logic, we should be seeing a Bratz licensing agreement and mini land any day now.
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
Gee thanks. I'll go back to posting on a fan forum in another 10 years now.
Sorry wasn't trying to undermine you. Just saying, there were valid reasons for closing ROA for Villains land... One of which is the logistics of getting people back to that expansion area. Also Disney 100% could have still done it while saving the ROA in some form... but chose not to.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
This has been beaten to death in this and the villains land thread... but the logistics of getting back to villains land would have been difficult if they didn't at least majorly alter the ROA. It was for sure possible, but some combination of reasons told disney this was the correct path forward.
They had other options to get back there. I even suggested one on this board.

Thus, Disney sunsetted RoA because they wanted to. Not because they had to.
 

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