RobbinsDad
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We give Disney Experiences heck for the slow pace of construction, but we don’t give them nearly enough credit for their efficiency in erasing prior attractions from existence. Impressive.
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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom
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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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Worth pointing out that the concept of docking the Riverboat and making it a restaurant (quick service or snack stand) is something they've considered for decades, even in Disneyland- the scrapped Discovery Bay land was going to have the Mark Twain and Sailing Ship Columbia permanently docked and used as dining space. Who's to say Magic Kingdom and the Liberty Belle couldn't get the same treatment? Put the riverboat outside TBA, have it sell beignets and mint juleps, maybe have a jazz band that plays on the upper deck for people like in the movie. Great way to save the ship while adding more theming to the TBA area.
What I wanna know is- what's gonna happen to the glowing eye owl animatronic in Harper's Mill? That guy is super charming, I hope he's moved to be outside the Haunted Mansion or something. I love me some simple 70s-era animatronics.
Raineman
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I'm not sure if others that opposed this change are in the same camp as myself, but this would not be as egregious if there was no IP tied to it. If it was just a pacific northwest landscape, with some kind of non-IP based "off-road" attraction traversing it, then it would be alot more palatable, IMO. Maybe even have a small section of explorable caves, as an homage to TSI. I don't want to see TSI/ROA go, but I would be ok with the type of replacement I just mentioned. But it is very obvious that Disney management thinks that only new projects with tied-in IP will make them money, and, with the masses that they are now catering to, they're unfortunately probably right.
It will always be the Richard F. Irvine dagnabbit.
SMRT-1Michael
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This annoys me because it's not really beyond Thunder. The wasted potential. Meanwhile at Disneyland................
SMRT-1Michael
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Agreed 100%
They did the same with Spectromagic floats as well.
Purduevian
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This has been beaten to death in this and the villains land thread... but the logistics of getting back to villains land would have been difficult if they didn't at least majorly alter the ROA. It was for sure possible, but some combination of reasons told disney this was the correct path forward.
SMRT-1Michael
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Gee thanks. Back to not replying in these forums for another 5-7 years.
Tha Realest
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It sold a ton of merch in the 2000’s!
Under that logic, we should be seeing a Bratz licensing agreement and mini land any day now.
Purduevian
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Sorry wasn't trying to undermine you. Just saying, there were valid reasons for closing ROA for Villains land... One of which is the logistics of getting people back to that expansion area. Also Disney 100% could have still done it while saving the ROA in some form... but chose not to.
You keep asserting Cars is no longer relevant. And those who say it is are just wrong.
Where is your data for this assertion?
They had other options to get back there. I even suggested one on this board.
Thus, Disney sunsetted RoA because they wanted to. Not because they had to.
Purduevian
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Oh I agree, I'm just saying the logistics of getting back there likely played a key role. It was just easier to remove ROA than try to design around it.
FettFan
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Would that be the marina on Facilities Way?
Smoky
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The Liberty Belle is dead. It'll be quietly moved and scrapped and that will be that. Disney hates its prime customers and thinks it can reach the """modern audience""" (which doesn't exist) with this monstrosity. Jeff, Josh, and Bob are all empty suits that only care about money and hate what the parks stand for. This company is dead. Please stop giving them your money. It will not get better and this will not be a good replacement. It will be a cheap and soulless empty husk of a ride that will never live up to RoA. I'm sure I will still peruse this site from time to time but Disney will never receive another one of my dollars. I know that's completely meaningless in the grand scheme of things but I'll spend my time and money at places where I'm valued and not actively hated.
FettFan
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New round of “piece of history” pins.
SMRT-1Michael
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Which is crazy as removing water features has never proven them successful, yet altering them to accommodate expansion always has. I still don't think the fun map they released is informative enough. I think their rational for squeezing this in is what bothers people the most with the bogus storyline. Josh is not a creative individual no matter how hard his script writers try to make him the "Walt". If they were turning this into a non-IP western expansion that was time period appropriate, I think people would've received this news a lot better, especially in keeping the storyline from Hudson Valley NY all the way out to Bryce Canyon. Now if the new water features they are creating invoke the vistas of say, Cascade Peak and Mine Train Thru Nature's Wonderland, I think people would be more amenable. And as painful as it is for me to say it, I'm not super bummed about TSI, I made it out there MAYBE every 2 years if I was lucky and that was just because I rarely am I MK in during the daytime. I am still holding out for some news about the riverboat resurfacing either near Tiana's or perhaps as part of the body of water still planned to be near BTMRR.
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