TrainsOfDisney
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They cleared alot for studios too. Part of that was for the new fireworks launch but nothing else was used.
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BrianLo
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Oh yea, just the proposition that they didn’t want to clear land, when they are clearing like ?75 acres, rings hollow.
The new retention pond is being driven by this project.
vikescaper
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Yeah, you’re right. That’s what Walt envisioned. He wanted all that space (44 square miles) so that in the future they would remove the Rivers of America, the Mark Twain River Boat and Tom Sawyer Island from the the most iconic theme park in the world. How silly of me. 
(Look up the word “sycophants.”)
(Look up the word “sycophants.”)
BrianLo
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Yeah, you’re right. That’s what Walt envisioned. He wanted all that space (44 square miles) so that in the future they would remove the Rivers of America, the Mark Twain River Boat and Tom Sawyer Island from the the most iconic theme park in the world. How silly of me.
He wanted all the space so he could build a city; WDW jumped the shark completely by 1982. Casting your aspersions on him is a fools errand in 2025.
Disney Analyst
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I have it on good authority that Walt is actually alive, somewhat. He downloaded himself into a super computer his team secretly invented, just below what would become Epcot. This is actually why the lights can’t function and the panels keep lifting. He’s just far too powerful.
All plans have come from him the entire time, he just uses whatever CEO is in place as a meat puppet to enact his bidding.
lazyboy97o
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He wasn’t even big on the idea of a theme park in Florida and had no idea what it would contain.Yeah, you’re right. That’s what Walt envisioned. He wanted all that space (44 square miles) so that in the future they would remove the Rivers of America, the Mark Twain River Boat and Tom Sawyer Island from the the most iconic theme park in the world. How silly of me.
TrainsOfDisney
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I mean… John Hench is dead too… but I can be quite certain he wouldn’t have approved of the poly tower the way it looks.
flynnibus
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Difference is… john hench actually lectured and published on the topic of design. You’re taking from his principles outlined and taught. Not what is happening in the other poster’s claims.
We call this apples and oranges
sedati
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I don't think Walt ever dreamed of his company needing to fully foot the bill for every idea built on that blessing of size. (In fact, I believe most of what comprised Walt's "Disney World" would have been paid for by other companies and temporary renters in his EPCOT. Did Walt forsee the need for heavy reinvestment/refurb/refresh cost compounding every ten-ish years. Or the need to basically overhaul/reconstruct what was already built as his world went on (thankfully) past fifty years. Disney World is marveled at for basically having the size and complexity of a city. But, like a city, that means endless maintenance and infrastructure costs for even building, road, pipe etc.
JohnD
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So today is Independence Day. There will be a year long celebration of the 250th anniversary of the US culminating one year from today. Just waiting for the media stories on Disney tearing out The Rivers of America and The Liberty Belle as we are celebrating the 250th anniversary of the US. Really bad optics for a company that used to be known for Americana and family. Good luck with that Disney.
JohnD
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You do realize they will remove her the same way she's removed for refurbishment. She will be towed out by way of the canal along the west side of MK into SSL, over the water bridge, into Bay Lake, and around to the boat dock on the NE side of MK/NW side of Bay Lake. It wouldn't surprise me if they did this in the dead of night. As to what happens to her
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etc98
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Except the image shows they’ve already dammed the canal to prepare for draining the rivers. Why would they have done that if they would then need to remove the dam to tow out the boat before they can actually start draining?You do realize they will remove her the same way she's removed for refurbishment. She will be towed out by way of the canal along the west side of MK into SSL, over the water bridge, into Bay Lake, and around to the boat dock on the NE side of MK/NW side of Bay Lake. It wouldn't surprise me if they did this in the dead of night. As to what happens to her
Unless the dam is there for some other reason.
JohnD
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Its not the first time they've drained the rivers either. Why would they use a crane to remove her when all they have to do is tow her to the boat dock. It will certainly be the last time its drained.
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etc98
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I know it’s not the first time they’ve drained the rivers. And I’m not suggesting they’re going to use a crane to move the boat.
But I’m saying if they were planning on moving the boat out through the canal to SSL, they wouldn’t have already set up the dam to start draining the rivers.
Why would they put the dam there now if they know they’d need to immediately remove it to tow the boat out before they start draining it?
So my assumption is they’re not planning on towing the boat out, and they’re probably just going to dismantle it in place.
plutofan15
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JohnD
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Spitballing here. Normal procedure. Temp dam put in place in canal. Liberty Belle is on a track. Track is switched to lead her out of canal. Gate opened between canal and Rivers. Water floods in from River. Belle led out into canal. Gate closed. She is moved into a mount. Water drained. She is unconnected from track. Blue dam removed. Water floods in from canal. Belle moves out of mount. She is floating on her own. Tug attached. She is towed out.
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The riverboat is being lifted out by helium balloons.