MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Chi84]

Walt said: “Here in Florida, we have something special we never enjoyed at Disneyland – the blessing of size. There\'s enough land here to hold all the ideas and plans we can possibly imagine,"

There is enough land here to hold all of the ideas and plans that we could possibly imagine. I don’t see anything you mentioned in his quote. What I do see is Walt wanting to have a place that
could hold all of his ideas without having to remove any other to do it. Why else would you have such a large space? If he meant otherwise, he would’ve mentioned how the spaces could evolve. It’s pretty obvious this quote means exactly that he wanted… somewhere that he could build new ideas without having to remove other ideas.

No, the reason the current leadership is removing these areas is because it is cheaper to do so than to build another park to house new ideas. Or to clear unimproved land to expand existing parks. It’s just easier to tear down something and build something new in it’s place. Tsk tsk.

That doesn’t make any sense. He was saying they would never remove attractions, only add to them?

 

[BrianLo]

No, the reason the current leadership is removing these areas is because it is cheaper to do so than to build another park to house new ideas. Or to clear unimproved land to expand existing parks. It’s just easier to tear down something and build something new in it’s place. Tsk tsk.

They are clearing an inordinate amount of land though… I don’t think that’s remotely the rationale.

 

[flynnibus]

What I do see is Walt wanting to have a place that
could hold all of his ideas without having to remove any other to do it

Again - you are adding words - “without having to..” is no where in his statement nor implicitly part of it.

Nothing in that film script says they won’t remove things. Just stop with the WWWD - dude never even saw this place and has been dead for over 50 years.

 

[flynnibus]

It’s just easier to tear down something and build something new in it’s place

It’s not easier - demolition costs money and fitting in an existing footprint is constraining. They do it because they don’t want to keep paying for that thing being replaced… the thing they’ve determined is no longer wanted.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

They are clearing an inordinate amount of land though… I don’t think that’s remotely the rationale.

They cleared alot for studios too. Part of that was for the new fireworks launch but nothing else was used.

 

[BrianLo]

They cleared alot for studios too. Part of that was for the new fireworks launch but nothing else was used.

Oh yea, just the proposition that they didn’t want to clear land, when they are clearing like ?75 acres, rings hollow.

The new retention pond is being driven by this project.

 

[vikescaper]

It’s not the best photo in the world, but I took this during the fireworks tonight.

 

[WDWhopper]

Yeah, you’re right. That’s what Walt envisioned. He wanted all that space (44 square miles) so that in the future they would remove the Rivers of America, the Mark Twain River Boat and Tom Sawyer Island from the the most iconic theme park in the world. How silly of me. (Look up the word “sycophants.”)

 

[BrianLo]

Yeah, you’re right. That’s what Walt envisioned. He wanted all that space (44 square miles) so that in the future they would remove the Rivers of America, the Mark Twain River Boat and Tom Sawyer Island from the the most iconic theme park in the world. How silly of me. (Look up the word “sycophants.”)

He wanted all the space so he could build a city; WDW jumped the shark completely by 1982. Casting your aspersions on him is a fools errand in 2025.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Again - you are adding words - “without having to..” is no where in his statement nor implicitly part of it.

Nothing in that film script says they won’t remove things. Just stop with the WWWD - dude never even saw this place and has been dead for over 50 years.

I have it on good authority that Walt is actually alive, somewhat. He downloaded himself into a super computer his team secretly invented, just below what would become Epcot. This is actually why the lights can’t function and the panels keep lifting. He’s just far too powerful.

All plans have come from him the entire time, he just uses whatever CEO is in place as a meat puppet to enact his bidding.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yeah, you’re right. That’s what Walt envisioned. He wanted all that space (44 square miles) so that in the future they would remove the Rivers of America, the Mark Twain River Boat and Tom Sawyer Island from the the most iconic theme park in the world. How silly of me. (Look up the word “sycophants.”)

He wasn’t even big on the idea of a theme park in Florida and had no idea what it would contain.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Just stop with the WWWD - dude never even saw this place and has been dead for over 50 years.

I mean… John Hench is dead too… but I can be quite certain he wouldn’t have approved of the poly tower the way it looks.

 

[flynnibus]

I mean… John Hench is dead too… but I can be quite certain he wouldn’t have approved of the poly tower the way it looks.

Difference is… john hench actually lectured and published on the topic of design. You’re taking from his principles outlined and taught. Not what is happening in the other poster’s claims.

We call this apples and oranges

 

[sedati]

I don't think Walt ever dreamed of his company needing to fully foot the bill for every idea built on that blessing of size. (In fact, I believe most of what comprised Walt's "Disney World" would have been paid for by other companies and temporary renters in his EPCOT. Did Walt forsee the need for heavy reinvestment/refurb/refresh cost compounding every ten-ish years. Or the need to basically overhaul/reconstruct what was already built as his world went on (thankfully) past fifty years. Disney World is marveled at for basically having the size and complexity of a city. But, like a city, that means endless maintenance and infrastructure costs for even building, road, pipe etc.

 

[larryz]

It's 8:47am EDT... how long is the line already?

 

[JohnD]

So today is Independence Day. There will be a year long celebration of the 250th anniversary of the US culminating one year from today. Just waiting for the media stories on Disney tearing out The Rivers of America and The Liberty Belle as we are celebrating the 250th anniversary of the US. Really bad optics for a company that used to be known for Americana and family. Good luck with that Disney.

 

[JohnD]

Looks like they put up a blue temporary dam ready to drain RoA, are they just going to lift the boat out of the water and dismantle it using the big thunder crane?
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You do realize they will remove her the same way she's removed for refurbishment. She will be towed out by way of the canal along the west side of MK into SSL, over the water bridge, into Bay Lake, and around to the boat dock on the NE side of MK/NW side of Bay Lake. It wouldn't surprise me if they did this in the dead of night. As to what happens to her .

 

[FettFan]

And here I was hoping that someone would hit the brakes on this crap.

 

[etc98]

You do realize they will remove her the same way she's removed for refurbishment. She will be towed out by way of the canal along the west side of MK into SSL, over the water bridge, into Bay Lake, and around to the boat dock on the NE side of MK/NW side of Bay Lake. It wouldn't surprise me if they did this in the dead of night. As to what happens to her .

Except the image shows they’ve already dammed the canal to prepare for draining the rivers. Why would they have done that if they would then need to remove the dam to tow out the boat before they can actually start draining?

Unless the dam is there for some other reason.

 

[JohnD]

Except the image shows they’ve already dammed the canal to prepare for draining the rivers. Why would they have done that if they would then need to remove the dam to tow out the boat before they can actually start draining?

Unless the dam is there for some other reason.

Its not the first time they've drained the rivers either. Why would they use a crane to remove her when all they have to do is tow her to the boat dock. It will certainly be the last time its drained.