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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom
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Gusey
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It's closing to make way for the expansion of Villains Land, being built on the back half of RoA and the expansion plot up to the train track. The park's footprint is getting expanded, even if Cars is replacing TSI. Similar to how Pandora was an expansion despite replacing Camp Minnie Mickey as it expanded that park's footprint, Monsters is an expansion as the door coaster isn't replacing anything and Encanto will be an expansion as its using the expansion plot behind Dino-Rama
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
They cannot call it expansion! But. They are.
Agent H
Well-Known Member
This looks wrong.
flynnibus
Premium Member
You are injecting your own ideas. What Walt ultimately wanted was control to do what he wanted - and the plot in FL allowed that. It’s why investigating the concepts that lead to RCID started immediately and as part of the picking the location.
Walt was always for improvement and plussing. He didn’t leave stuff for the sake of untouchable.
Disney isn’t pulling the RoA because it’s forced to for space - they are replacing what they don’t want to keep.
Animaniac93-98
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They did the same thing with New Fantasyland
By building in space previously occupied by 20,000 Leagues and Mickey's Toontown Fair
mickEblu
Well-Known Member
Barf. If I ever see this on the Disneyland map I’m chaining myself to Tom and Huck’s treehouse.
EricsBiscuit
Well-Known Member
Just got to experience TSI again today before they closed it for lightning. What are the odds that TSI will have more animation than Cars and Villains combined? By the way, everything was moving and working at TSI…
easyrowrdw
Well-Known Member
So are they counting the river and island as park of their measurement? Or is the actual new area for Villains actually bigger than whatever the previous expansion was? Now I’m wondering what the last land expansion was that didn’t replace something.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
They are counting TSI in the total measurement they gave, but it’s still probably genuinely the largest expansion regardless since if you discount TSI, you’d have to discount 20k and Toontown from New Fantasyland too. They’re pretty much using the entire area inside the train tracks west of Haunted Mansion.
TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
Individual objects that have animation? Most likely not .... Points of motion? Probably yes (so fewer figures but each with a lot more animation)
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
You do see the irony right? Nobody knows for sure what Walt ultimately would want at the magic kingdom park.
I feel pretty confident, however, that he would most certainly want Main Street usa, the steam train, and steam boat.
HMF
Well-Known Member
The sad fact of the matter is WDI has basically become a glorified marketing firm under current leadership.
He said that as part of a promotional film for EPCOT, which he was pitching as a planned city.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Just a random fact - that script was written by Marty.
Walt said: “Here in Florida, we have something special we never enjoyed at Disneyland – the blessing of size. There\'s enough land here to hold all the ideas and plans we can possibly imagine,"
There is enough land here to hold all of the ideas and plans that we could possibly imagine. I don’t see anything you mentioned in his quote. What I do see is Walt wanting to have a place that
could hold all of his ideas without having to remove any other to do it. Why else would you have such a large space? If he meant otherwise, he would’ve mentioned how the spaces could evolve. It’s pretty obvious this quote means exactly that he wanted… somewhere that he could build new ideas without having to remove other ideas.
No, the reason the current leadership is removing these areas is because it is cheaper to do so than to build another park to house new ideas. Or to clear unimproved land to expand existing parks. It’s just easier to tear down something and build something new in it’s place. Tsk tsk.
Chi84
Premium Member
That doesn’t make any sense. He was saying they would never remove attractions, only add to them?
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
They are clearing an inordinate amount of land though… I don’t think that’s remotely the rationale.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Again - you are adding words - “without having to..” is no where in his statement nor implicitly part of it.
Nothing in that film script says they won’t remove things. Just stop with the WWWD - dude never even saw this place and has been dead for over 50 years.
flynnibus
Premium Member
It’s not easier - demolition costs money and fitting in an existing footprint is constraining. They do it because they don’t want to keep paying for that thing being replaced… the thing they’ve determined is no longer wanted.