BrianLo
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The minor trouble here might just be Epcot itself?
Being semi-fresh off the world fair in Osaka, the first two queues are remarkably representative of modern pavilions.
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EPCOT Test Track to be reimagined
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The minor trouble here might just be Epcot itself?
Being semi-fresh off the world fair in Osaka, the first two queues are remarkably representative of modern pavilions.
Poseidon Quest
Well-Known Member
Just watched a POV. I wasn't anticipating much for this new version, but I'm actually pleasantly surprised. It's not perfect and I'll have to wait to ride it in person for a true assessment, but this seems like a 2025 interpretation of the classic Epcot spirit. That's a huge improvement to me and I hope that positive feedback and reception for an original attraction makes Disney listen.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I’m comparing recent e ticket level attractions. What is unkike about that? This is literally the top three attraction in epcot… and that’s what you get?
This “future world queue” limitation is some nonsense. Even space mountain is more interesting then this. The reason future world queues were so basic in the past is because they basically didn’t have long extended themed queues due to their massive capacities. They were designed for high turnover.
But this is 2025… look at what they did with nemo in TLS… they weren’t bound by the past to stick to a white box. Even GoTG at least tried to be techy with the lighting and curves… and it’s second phase has preshow elements and effects. M:s has entire scenes and more.
The point of the photos is queues in this decade are an extended part of the show… especially with eticket level attractions.
People here are fawning over their local community college presentation on their student projects
flynnibus
Premium Member
You continue to test my ability to stomach your takes
flynnibus
Premium Member
The idea of a worlds fair was replaced ages ago… this is themed IPcot now. If they are going to just do a theme park at least be good at it
James Alucobond
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I’m saying that they’re not trying to do the same thing at all. As I mentioned, you’re welcome to criticize the strategy, but I think that the comparison is largely pointless; we all know that the Harry Potter environments being mimicked are inherently fantastic and impressive whereas Future World has always had a more grounded aesthetic based on World’s Fairs. It’s cool to hope they go in a different direction, but it’s a bit disingenuous to side-by-side the images as if one represents the type of queue Disney builds versus the type of queue Universal builds. Disney builds fantasy queues competently when that is the aim.
JackCH
Well-Known Member
The better comparison for a recent queue would probably be RotR.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Fair enough. But they were aiming for worlds fair with queues (well guardians, I’m merely reacting to a picture of the TT one).
You are a proponent of fully shirking the Worlds Fair.
My gut reaction is Guardians presents itself as the best of version of a current worlds fair pavilion and the GM one is merely on the level.
And just so it doesn’t present itself as shilling, that’s not my intent. I just wanted to quote myself that this was my description of Osaka that I just concurrently had this conversation a bit over a week ago.
Except the ride system for Guardians is third party.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I think you are focusing on the details and missing the message. Like i said… look at space mountain. It is not built out line MoM yet is far more of an experience than this thing.
Your argument boils down to “they can when they want to”. Ok, why don’t they want a world class experience for test track?
flynnibus
Premium Member
We call that cherry picking because it’s picking your best instead of sticking to the actual comparison.
The point isn’t what the companies can do… it’s what they are doing
Vinnie Mac
Well-Known Member
Another thing I wanna mention is that I absolutely love the soundtrack for this ride. Easily one of my favorite original pieces of music written specifically for Epcot in recent years. It's so optimistic and inspiring and it's bery fitting for modern day Epcot in the best way possible. I need it on streaming immediately!
On a more sappy note, I think the optimistic and forward thinking spirit of this ride is such a breathe of fresh air in an era of time where we are surrounded by doomerism and nihilism. It's easy to feel like we don't have much to look forward to in the future but we really do and there is lots of exciting technology on the horizon that I think will affect our daily lives in positive ways. The world could certainly use more optimism.
On a more sappy note, I think the optimistic and forward thinking spirit of this ride is such a breathe of fresh air in an era of time where we are surrounded by doomerism and nihilism. It's easy to feel like we don't have much to look forward to in the future but we really do and there is lots of exciting technology on the horizon that I think will affect our daily lives in positive ways. The world could certainly use more optimism.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
They want the look they built. Lots of people also don’t like the similar aesthetic of Creations, Connections, Guardians, etc. Your argument is that such a thing doesn’t look world class, which is a fair opinion, but I don’t think it’s the way it is because they explicitly don’t want it to be world class.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I think it’s quite yhe backflip to frame cosmic rewind in a WF image. It has that kind of cosmetic… but not that story, purpose, or takeaway.
And I am not a proponent of taking away the WF.. i’m just saying whatever they chose, do it well. I am not hating on the pivot, i am saying the product is weak.
where is the reride value in this attraction? It is still just this flat coaster experience. The lidar scene is something people will continue to lime but the rest is filler. I mean… they redid the same projection gimmick THREE times in a row.
flynnibus
Premium Member
if this is what they aspire to… then they got deeper issues. Because this is run of the mill… not industry leading
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Again, this was my pre-established opinion. I’m not doing a backflip for you, I wrote it weeks ago. I just thought it was funny timing and worth mentioning.
Osaka is shockingly not really like Epcot of yore. Nor I imagine Expos of the 60’s. It was all vibes and feels and very little actual information or substance. Like current Epcot. Probably worse than Cosmic Rewind, because they are trying to go so multilingual that there isn’t much concrete information.
I have not watched the ride video or a queue line walkthrough. I have nothing to add.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
It’s not about what they “aspire to”, which is my point. They can obviously set their sights much higher in terms of complexity and fantasy and pull it off. They do regularly. It is about their perception of what EPCOT is and what it should look like; the murals in both TT3.0 and Connections are clear attempts to recapture a certain aesthetic alongside more modern finishes and fixtures. Your opinion is that this is not particularly effective or desirable and is inherently unimpressive, but it has nothing to do with them being “unambitious” E-tickets and everything to do with them existing in a particular space at WDW.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
I was at Osaka Expo this year as well and I agree, LOTS of vibes and little substance, but some pavilions were WAY nicer than others (South Korea being a huge letdown and Malaysia being SUPER nice IMO)....but that's off topic
Each queue fits for their ride. Test Track is showcasing General Moters, Guardians starts as a pavilion for Xandar which has exhibits in the next room. This feels your trying to make a bad faith argument.