DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[HMF]

Don't a lot of the modern Marvel movies have a lot of "meta" humor in them? If so, I feel like their success might be part of the reason why "meta" humor is EVERYWHERE now.

The Guardians Tower in California has some of the stupidest and openly fan insulting jokes in the Disney Parks. I believe the queue of Guardians in EPCOT does as well. The only attraction other than that I can think of in WDW like that was Tiki Room Under New Management which was thankfully burned out of it's misery.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I took this picture of the show building of the BATB ride in TDL from the monorail. It is the small building in the center. The theater is to the left and Frozen in Fantasy Springs is to the right. IMO, WDW should be able to plop this somewhere.

 

[HMF]

The BatB ride in TDL is very underrated by park fans stateside. It doesn’t come across as well on video but the motion of the teacups helps you get through each scene. I had the pleasure of experiencing it in person two weeks ago. Absolutely my favorite ride at TDL it would make for a great addition to MK as the ride matches MK’s grand scale.
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Much better than anything done at WDW in the past 25 years.

 

[HMF]

Oh I would love to have this in MK's Fantasyland.

Instead we got that stupid overpriced restaurant and Belle's Magical glorified meet and greet with cardboard.

 

[HMF]

I don’t think there’s room in fantasyland for the TDL ride. Does anyone know different?

There would be if we tear out the overrated Be Our Guest Restaurant and Belles magical cardboard meet and greet.

 

[HMF]

Disneyland FL around the castle is leaps and bound better.

and has been since 1983.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

TDO won't pay the actors.

California won’t either now. Thanks Bob.

 

[HMF]

I blame Shrek for originating the meta humor boom,

Shrek was basically Jeffrey Katzenberg's elaborate middle finger to Disney/Eisner.

 

[J4546]

relocate IaSW and put a tangled boat ride in there first cause IaSW looks like crap in FL imo.

 

[Agent H]

There would be if we tear out the overrated Be Our Guest Restaurant and Belles magical cardboard meet and greet.

Yeah that’s gonna be a no from me. I’d rather the park have something slightly different in this case.

 

[James Alucobond]

There would be if we tear out the overrated Be Our Guest Restaurant and Belles magical cardboard meet and greet.

The M&G is actually solid, though the library itself should be way more impressive. I wish all indoor M&Gs were similarly well-considered. I agree that the restaurant is actual garbage at this point, though. The lunch was the only okay thing. The last time I was there, the study was basically gutted, the food had gotten even poorer (shocking for the price tag), Beast just speed walked through for five seconds, and they hadn't updated anything with regard to the seating to account for the fact that it's essentially permanent table service now. Cinderella's Royal Table does it way better on all fronts, and I would not be at all sad to lose it for an attraction of some kind.

 

[WorldExplorer]

Shrek was basically Jeffrey Katzenberg's elaborate middle finger to Disney/Eisner.

Yep. And now Disney is convinced giving themselves the middle finger on a regular basis is funny and clever instead of sad and obnoxious.

 

[HMF]

Yep. And now Disney is convinced giving themselves AND THEIR FANS the middle finger on a regular basis is funny and clever instead of sad and obnoxious.

fixed.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

relocate IaSW and put a tangled boat ride in there first cause IaSW looks like crap in FL imo.

Can we relocate it to the entrance of World Showcase imo...

 

[MisterPenguin]

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I'm okay with that. Tokyo's Beauty and the Beast ride isn't that great.

Don't a lot of the modern Marvel movies have a lot of "meta" humor in them? If so, I feel like their success might be part of the reason why "meta" humor is EVERYWHERE now.

This is something that pleasantly surprised me about the new Country Bears show. I was expecting there to be meta humor and instead we got actual jokes.

I would not lay this on Marvel. Meta humor had been getting increasingly popular in all walks of entertainment for over a decade before it became everything like it is today. Honestly, even a bit longer with the Shreks of the world, but I would say Shrek was something of an outlier until the internet started becoming the culture controller.

Once social media began to have a more direct influence on filmmaking (specifically meme culture influencing filmmaking) in the mid-2010s, that meta humor began to trickle in. No one franchise or person started it, it just sort of started happening until suddenly everyone was approaching things as meta or knowing deconstructions of old tropes.

 

[BrianLo]

I want to support @lazyboy97o responses on this one. I think @Mr. Sullivan was well meaning, but you jumbled a few things together.

Most of the exclusivity was related to HKDL’s fear of SDL. As Lazyboy said it was largely useless, they basically held back their Toy Story Playland until 5 years to the date in Shanghai. Originality, ironically, ensures them more exclusivity. There’s no such deal with their recent investment pipeline.

OLC’s issue was that Disney kept pitching them projects they really didn’t want and felt largely taken advantage of. Disney was trying to get OLC to prop up a portion of R&D on projects they had engaged in domestically. Namely Cars, Pandora and Galaxies Edge. Things that did not tickle the populaces fancy - they wanted more princesses. The D23 in Tokyo was part and parcel with a failed attempt to pitch the resort on a copy of Pandora.

There’s absolutely nothing preventing B&TB being copied. Now that said - current management, for whatever reason, seems to have an earnest desire to not copy things. I don’t know what has changed. Obviously WDI likes the position as it generates more work for them. I assume this is a Josh endorsed strategy, I think he pays attention a lot more than past parks execs have. We’ll see how long that lasts.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Very excited for this project!! I think there’s a great opportunity to make a really fun and unique coaster experience here as well as a new fun themed are to explore! Watching with great interest!

 

[JKick95]

I want to support @lazyboy97o responses on this one. I think @Mr. Sullivan was well meaning, but you jumbled a few things together.

Most of the exclusivity was related to HKDL’s fear of SDL. As Lazyboy said it was largely useless, they basically held back their Toy Story Playland until 5 years to the date in Shanghai. Originality, ironically, ensures them more exclusivity. There’s no such deal with their recent investment pipeline.

OLC’s issue was that Disney kept pitching them projects they really didn’t want and felt largely taken advantage of. Disney was trying to get OLC to prop up a portion of R&D on projects they had engaged in domestically. Namely Cars, Pandora and Galaxies Edge. Things that did not tickle the populaces fancy - they wanted more princesses. The D23 in Tokyo was part and parcel with a failed attempt to pitch the resort on a copy of Pandora.

There’s absolutely nothing preventing B&TB being copied. Now that said - current management, for whatever reason, seems to have an earnest desire to not copy things. I don’t know what has changed. Obviously WDI likes the position as it generates more work for them. I assume this is a Josh endorsed strategy, I think he pays attention a lot more than past parks execs have. We’ll see how long that lasts.

Totally agree—this is my biggest gripe with Universal. They love cloning lands and rides across their parks, which really takes away the excitement of visiting new locations. I’m always more excited about original concepts that make each park feel unique. I really hope this current strategy of avoiding clones continues—it’s so much more rewarding as a fan to experience something new at each destination.

 

[unclejeff]

It seems like the BATB ride could just spend a little less time in the boring room....actually all the dancing rooms except for the Be Our Guest room... It's a good looking ride.... and would be a Magic Kingdom Classic....Just leave the current restaurant facade, but make a better larger castle for the top, and gut the structure adding on from behind. They could even use Enchanted Tales With Belle as the queue and use the current restaurant entrance as the attraction exit.
it would fit something like this if it were inclined the identical way... So we know that won't work...lol
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I know we are far off topic here, but I think it could work if it replaces the current Enchanted Tales. The access lot to the left could be converted. I can't see them taking away a fine-dining experience that generates a lot of revenue with just a ride, but the TDL ride would certainly be a bigger draw than Enchanted Tales with Belle.

There is even more room if/when they decide to move Small World to a more thematically suitable location (e.g. Epcot or even Tomorrowland). They could easily fit a clone (or similar) Rapunzel boat ride from TDS in that vacated space to the left as well, just as an example (approximate total square-footages of both rides from Tokyo represented below). But that's a topic for another thread..