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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

Timothy_Q

Well-Known Member
Even if Disney were able to clone TDR rides, they wouldn't because $$$

They could've designed a better Frozen ride for HKD and DLP on the same level as Tokyo's, but they chose to be cheap instead
 

nickys

Premium Member
This all may be true, but could you please cite your source? I have a vague and possibly incorrect memory that Disney was choosing between Rat and Tokyo’s B&B when they expanded EPCOTS France.
Tokyo’s ride didn’t open until after Covid.

I also remember discussion over Ratatouille and B&tB, but since the ride wasn’t yet open at that point maybe the exclusivity issue was still being negotiated. And potentially the deciding factor.
 

phillip9698

Well-Known Member
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Disney own the IP. They license the parks from Disney. They have 80% of the same rides at the Disney parks in America. Yet the won't share an original attraction they've built with Disney? Give me a break.

Unlike US leadership, OLC actually understands that unique attractions drives people to want to visit their park. So they exclusivity clauses with their attractions.

Disney has such a wide breadth to choose from, yet here in the US we just want copies of what’s already done, that is accessible with a $100 plane ticket.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
@lazyboy97o can speak to this better, but I believe he said (and I believe what he says) that exclusivity clauses are not universal. There may or may not be one for a new ride, and the length of exclusivity isn't always the same.

So, we don't know (unless an insider who knows chirps up) if there is BatB-ride exclusivity, and if there is, how long the exclusion is.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
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flyerjab

Well-Known Member
Enough with the cloning of Attractions.
WDW needs its OWN unique experiences, exclusive to the Florida Properties.

Which the forthcoming ‘Monsters Inc. Door Coaster’ will be.
Which is good.

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It is good! Very good. I want unique reasons to visit the different parks.

Having now been to both domestic parks it is clear that DL is a superior version of MK. Luckily, the larger resort in Florida as a whole offers a grander experience. And adding unique attractions resort-wide allows for this. During the last wave of additions to the parks, we got Ratatouille and Tron. Now, I do enjoy both of them very much, but they exist elsewhere.

A Carsland that is not a copy of what is in DCA is something I appreciate. It is original to the MK park; as will Villians Land. It is helping to shape a unique identity for MK.

Similar to this, Monsters Inc with a unique coaster and show - really just the land in general - continues to add new experiences than copies. I really prefer no more copies of other rides and attractions. Make each park stand on its own.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
Shame we're trading one of the best WDW exclusive attractions for it, but what can ya do at this point?

Yeah, it truly sucks to lose ‘MuppetVision 3D’ but even as a fan of the Attraction I can plainly see this area really needed redevelopment.
It was a dead zone, sadly.

Jim himself would likely agree with that, as let’s be honest : the Muppet Courtyard area was never really used to its full potential, especially over the last decade….or two.
Add into this the ‘dead end’ / non throughway , the shuttered Muppets store, ….and its days have been numbered for some time.

I LOVE ‘MuppetVision 3D’ and felt very strongly it SHOULD stay for various reasons, but a refresh to the area was needed.
Expanding the Park is also desperately needed, and the new Monsters Inc. area will help do so.

There is so much more that could have been done to that Muppets themed area, but here we are today.
One can only hope what is coming will be excellent and enhance an area that has been pretty much left for dead for far too long.

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DonniePeverley

Well-Known Member
They have a very public contract with Disney that grants them exclusivity for an extended period of time. The Beauty and the Beast ride is still very comfortably in that time period. It does not take much searching to find the details of this deal which has been in place for decades.

It is rather evident that once that period expires that OLC still holds influence over Disney to not clone seeing as Disney has yet to clone any Tokyo originals anywhere.

OLC has influence over Disney. They are not subservient to the Mouse. Hence their ability to decline getting their Splash Mountain turned into TBA.

Also, one look at the Tokyo resort would reveal that they do not in fact have 80% the same ride as the parks in America. Not only are most of their shared attractions different, there are multiple attractions in Tokyo Disneyland unique to them and 95% of Tokyo DisneySea is completely unique.

I highly recommend you do a bit of research before jumping into conversations with this attitude. Though I guess I shouldn’t be shocked at this attitude coming from someone who thinks annual passholders ought to be treated like war criminals.

Nonsense of the highest order. If either party wanted to work on taking IP's from each other they could arrange it.

There are very few tourists who are travelling to American Disney theme parks and Tokyo for the need of an exclusivity agreement.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Nonsense of the highest order. If either party wanted to work on taking IP's from each other they could arrange it.

There are very few tourists who are travelling to American Disney theme parks and Tokyo for the need of an exclusivity agreement.
And yet there were definitely exclusivity agreements in favour of both Hong Kong and Paris.

The common factor is that Disney do not (or did not in the case of Paris) have complete ownership of the parks outside of the US. Meaning they were not paying for the development of the rides, so conceded the exclusivity on certain rides.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Nonsense of the highest order. If either party wanted to work on taking IP's from each other they could arrange it.

There are very few tourists who are travelling to American Disney theme parks and Tokyo for the need of an exclusivity agreement.
There either is or is not an exclusivity agreement. Your opinion that one isn’t needed doesn’t matter.

Those agreements bind both parties; it’s not a matter of “working on” a way to get around them.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
And yet there were definitely exclusivity agreements in favour of both Hong Kong and Paris.

The common factor is that Disney do not (or did not in the case of Paris) have complete ownership of the parks outside of the US. Meaning they were not paying for the development of the rides, so conceded the exclusivity on certain rides.
Paris hasn’t been a big place for exclusivity because they didn’t have the money. They’ve been the recipient of a lot of clones, even up to the present. Ratatouille was not an exclusive either and didn’t need it because Iger didn’t consider it a franchise worth the investment.
There either is or is not an exclusivity agreement. Your opinion that one isn’t needed doesn’t matter.

Those agreements bind both parties; it’s not a matter of “working on” a way to get around them.
True, but the broken clock is more right in this case. The prevalence and scope of exclusivity agreements are greatly exaggerated by the fan community.
 

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