DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[BrianLo]

Philharmagic's CGI has also aged much worse than the practical sets and puppets used in Muppet-Vision

2003 Ariel doesn't hold up as well as even 2010 Rapunzel

I really want them to re-animate Philharmagic. Especially since it would be a shared cost project.

I unabashedly love Philharmagic. I’m a sucker for the effect of expansion and contraction.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I really want them to re-animate Philharmagic. Especially since it would be a shared cost project.

I unabashedly love Philharmagic. I’m a sucker for the effect of expansion and contraction.

I feel exactly the same way: if they re-animated it (perhaps adding a new segment for marketing purposes along the way), there would be no real reason for it to go away. The only issue with it at the moment (for me, anyway) is the animation from all the segments except Coco now looks dated.

Well, another issue is its placement in Discoveryland in Disneyland Paris...

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

I really want them to re-animate Philharmagic. Especially since it would be a shared cost project.

I unabashedly love Philharmagic. I’m a sucker for the effect of expansion and contraction.

That 03 animation really shows nowadays.

 

[phillip9698]

MV3D was a singular piece of art from one of the greatest living artists of our time, it does not exist anywhere else in the world. It does not function as a painting which can be moved, or a simple digital recording which can live on a streaming service. I don't care if that theater had ten seats or ten thousand, there should always be a way for someone to come sit down and see the final work of Jim Henson. The same way I can fly to the Louvre and look at the Mona Lisa. The LEAST the company could do is move the dozen or so animatronics and a couple of the seats to the Center for Puppetry Arts but for some inexplicable reason they can not bring themselves to do that, and people should not be letting them off the hook for it. There's not a single other thing at Walt Disney World that carries this kind of historical significance in my opinion.

That place is awesome. I’m a member and take the family to see a couple shows a year.

 

[The Underminer]

You mean like The Little mermaid show?

The new Mermaid Show cannot remotely compare to a Hyperion Theater production.

Beauty and the Beast needs to be swapped for an actual quality show.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

Beauty and the Beast needs to be swapped for an actual quality show.

Beauty and the Beast needs to be demoed and the land behind the theater should become an attraction. I think it could house a Fantasyland-style dark ride.

 

[DonniePeverley]

Beauty and the Beast needs to be demoed and the land behind the theater should become an attraction. I think it could house a Fantasyland-style dark ride.

Or just copy the new Beauty and Beast attraction from Tokyo. That is a wonderful, albeit short, attraction.

Anyways ... back to Cars. What we getting and in what century ?

 

[JackCH]

Or just copy the new Beauty and Beast attraction from Tokyo. That is a wonderful, albeit short, attraction.

Anyways ... back to Cars. What we getting and in what century ?

This is the Monster's Inc thread.

 

[Drew the Disney Dude]

The quality content you all have been waiting for.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Any "clues" in Mike's Laugh Schedule?

 

[BagOfGroceries]

The only thing I would even reluctantly accept as a replacement is Put That Thing Back Where It Came From, Or So Help Me

 

[Tha Realest]

They are not just talking away a 30 year old movie. They are talking away the last work of Jim Henson. I fall into the group of people who are excited for monsters inc. and I would be even more excited if this was replacing literally anything else.

Like the office space behind Animation Courtyard? But won’t anyone think of the poor office workers?

 

[Agent H]

Like the office space behind Animation Courtyard? But won’t anyone think of the poor office workers?

Anything would be preferable. Animation courtyard. Echo lake. Rock and roller coaster. Sunset boulevard. Or just move muppet vision to the sunset showcase and save the animation courtyard parcel for something bigger. (Yes I’m aware @lentesta said that wasn’t happening)

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Or just copy the new Beauty and Beast attraction from Tokyo. That is a wonderful, albeit short, attraction

OLC won’t let that happen

 

[DonniePeverley]

OLC won’t let that happen

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Disney own the IP. They license the parks from Disney. They have 80% of the same rides at the Disney parks in America. Yet the won't share an original attraction they've built with Disney? Give me a break.

 

[nickys]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Disney own the IP. They license the parks from Disney. They have 80% of the same rides at the Disney parks in America. Yet the won't share an original attraction they've built with Disney? Give me a break.

Ever heard of exclusivity clauses?

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Disney own the IP. They license the parks from Disney. They have 80% of the same rides at the Disney parks in America. Yet the won't share an original attraction they've built with Disney? Give me a break.

They have a very public contract with Disney that grants them exclusivity for an extended period of time. The Beauty and the Beast ride is still very comfortably in that time period. It does not take much searching to find the details of this deal which has been in place for decades.

It is rather evident that once that period expires that OLC still holds influence over Disney to not clone seeing as Disney has yet to clone any Tokyo originals anywhere.

OLC has influence over Disney. They are not subservient to the Mouse. Hence their ability to decline getting their Splash Mountain turned into TBA.

Also, one look at the Tokyo resort would reveal that they do not in fact have 80% the same ride as the parks in America. Not only are most of their shared attractions different, there are multiple attractions in Tokyo Disneyland unique to them and 95% of Tokyo DisneySea is completely unique.

I highly recommend you do a bit of research before jumping into conversations with this attitude. Though I guess I shouldn’t be shocked at this attitude coming from someone who thinks annual passholders ought to be treated like war criminals.

 

[Casper Gutman]

They have a very public contract with Disney that grants them exclusivity for an extended period of time. The Beauty and the Beast ride is still very comfortably in that time period. It does not take much searching to find the details of this deal which has been in place for decades.

It is rather evident that once that period expires that OLC still holds influence over Disney to not clone seeing as Disney has yet to clone any Tokyo originals anywhere.

OLC has influence over Disney. They are not subservient to the Mouse. Hence their ability to decline getting their Splash Mountain turned into TBA.

Also, one look at the Tokyo resort would reveal that they do not in fact have 80% the same ride as the parks in America. Not only are most of their shared attractions different, there are multiple attractions in Tokyo Disneyland unique to them and 95% of Tokyo DisneySea is completely unique.

I highly recommend you do a bit of research before jumping into conversations with this attitude. Though I guess I shouldn’t be shocked at this attitude coming from someone who thinks annual passholders ought to be treated like war criminals.

This all may be true, but could you please cite your source? I have a vague and possibly incorrect memory that Disney was choosing between Rat and Tokyo’s B&B when they expanded EPCOTS France.

 

[danlb_2000]

They have a very public contract with Disney that grants them exclusivity for an extended period of time. The Beauty and the Beast ride is still very comfortably in that time period. It does not take much searching to find the details of this deal which has been in place for decades.

It is rather evident that once that period expires that OLC still holds influence over Disney to not clone seeing as Disney has yet to clone any Tokyo originals anywhere.

OLC has influence over Disney. They are not subservient to the Mouse. Hence their ability to decline getting their Splash Mountain turned into TBA.

Also, one look at the Tokyo resort would reveal that they do not in fact have 80% the same ride as the parks in America. Not only are most of their shared attractions different, there are multiple attractions in Tokyo Disneyland unique to them and 95% of Tokyo DisneySea is completely unique.

I highly recommend you do a bit of research before jumping into conversations with this attitude. Though I guess I shouldn’t be shocked at this attitude coming from someone who thinks annual passholders ought to be treated like war criminals.

It doesn't take much searching to see that Epic Universe was actually built, but he doesn't believe that either.

 

[Brer Panther]

But it's meta! The most cookie cutter meta possible! You don't need to write real jokes so long as you just make references to knowing it's a story, right?

Meta's fine when there's effort put into it. Muppet Vision was a good example; there were actual jokes in there. MST3K was the same. Frozen has the generic, effortless kind.

Disney really doesn't know how to do "meta" humor nowadays. The "you're a princess" joke in Moana was cringe-worthy. And the less said about the Chip and Dale movie the better.

Temporarily until they opened the full show at the Hyperion.

If they hadn't put another Frozen show in the Hyperion, I guarantee you that Disneyland would still have the Frozen Sing-Along too.

we're going to do the corny thing that you expect, but we're going to acknowledge its cheap and corny, so it's fine!

Hey, it still works better than their doing that in Muppets Most Wanted.

"Rizzo and Robin are still just background characters, like in the 2011 movie, but we're going to acknowledge that, so we don't have to fix it!"

Philharmagic's CGI has also aged much worse than the practical sets and puppets used in Muppet-Vision

2003 Ariel doesn't hold up as well as even 2010 Rapunzel

I'm tempted to bring up the ugly CGI animation in Tiana's Bayou Adventure, but I know people on this site get really mad when you criticize Tiana's Bayou Adventure, so I won't.

for the people who think Bob Iger hates the Muppets...wasn't it 2 movies and a TV show that got made during his time as CEO (or was Chapek part of that?)

(also sorry for not keeping this thread on monsters inc focus but..../me looks around)

From my understanding, it was Jason Segel who really pushed for the 2011 Muppets movie to get made. And yeah, we got a sequel... which flopped because it sucked and was up against films like Divergent or whatever it was called, which resulted in them not doing any more theatrical Muppet movies. We likely only got the 2015 series because Disney wanted to cash in on the success of the other "mockumentary" format shows like Modern Family and Parks and Recreation.

I love MK's PhilharMagic. I wouldn't want to see it go. I'd appreciate newer segments

I've seen this suggested before, but a great idea would be to "randomize" it a la Star Tours to add in new segments without having to actually replace anything.

That being said... if they were to move it to Hollywood Studios (maybe it could replace Launch Bay or the Mickey Shorts Theater?) and add a new dark ride to Fantasyland, I wouldn't be opposed to that.