DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

gerarar

gerarar

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You can see the cast member parking lot blocked off with walls for upcoming construction in these aerials – as previously reported by @wdwmagic
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Cast Member Lot Walled-Off as Disney Gears Up for Monsters, Inc. Expansion at Hollywood Studios

Cast Member Lot Walled-Off as Disney Gears Up for Monsters, Inc. Expansion at Hollywood Studios
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Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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A Frozen singalong show could be great - with live singing, dancers, puppets, production values, etc - and a Frozen improv show could be fun - with a talented group of comedians acting out a satire of the film. Having two stranded actors reciting a film plot between karaoke bits lifted directly from the film is nothing. It’s an insulting cost-saving nothing. And being “for the kids,” as always, is no excuse for cheapness and low effort
 
Disney Analyst

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Bocabear said:
I did not know that Disneyland had dropped all of their live performances... They used to have many with frequent changes, and they were all so much better than what WDW was offering... Truthfully I avoid most of the shows these days as the last ones I have seen in the past were all sort of cringeworthy bad... So I have not seen the recent sing along things...
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Yes, and sadly most likely out of spite for the recent entertainment unionization and pay raise as a result.

Disney can afford it, and are being jerks. But hoping the new president of the resort brings shows back to Disneyland.
 
Mr. Sullivan

Mr. Sullivan

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DreamfinderGuy said:
Never understood this mindset, MV3D is the only 3D show I think Disney has ever produced that wouldn't feel dated if you watched it today. Certainly part of why it had such a long life, you don't see any other show lasting as long as it did (We'll check back in on Philharmagic in another 13 years)
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While I greatly enjoyed the show, I really can’t see how anyone couldn’t find it dated. It is clearly a product of a time where the “Ooh! Aah!” of 3D in a theme park was still an exciting thing for guests rather than being rather expected, and so many of the gags being built around the Muppets finding different ways to shove something toward the camera really dates it in the same way that old 3D films holding stuff out to the camera date them. If it was a show that just happened to be in 3D rather than a show constantly referencing that gag I don’t think it would’ve felt as of it’s time as it ultimately did as 3D became more and more prominent in theme parks.
 
Professortango1

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Mr. Sullivan said:
While I greatly enjoyed the show, I really can’t see how anyone couldn’t find it dated. It is clearly a product of a time where the “Ooh! Aah!” of 3D in a theme park was still an exciting thing for guests rather than being rather expected, and so many of the gags being built around the Muppets finding different ways to shove something toward the camera really dates it in the same way that old 3D films holding stuff out to the camera date them. If it was a show that just happened to be in 3D rather than a show constantly referencing that gag I don’t think it would’ve felt as of it’s time as it ultimately did as 3D became more and more prominent in theme parks.
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Yeah, the jokes are a bit dated as well. It reminds me of going to Ren Faire years ago and finding groups doing the same jokes they were doing 20+ years ago. Comedy ages much faster than drama; even Shakespeare isn't immune to that.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Casper Gutman said:
I was there last week. It was half full at best.

The actors tried, but it’s just showing clips from the movie. I can’t imagine standards for Disney shows have fallen this far.

If Disney wants an improv show, I wholeheartedly endorse the idea. Uni has a good one. Disney used to have a couple good ones. But no, Frozen isn’t that.
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It was added to DHS in 2014 as part of the Frozen Summer Fun promotion in a theater that no longer exists.

Yes, it changed venues, but this is another example of a "temporary" thing in WDW that ended up not being temporary
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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Mr. Sullivan said:
While I greatly enjoyed the show, I really can’t see how anyone couldn’t find it dated. It is clearly a product of a time where the “Ooh! Aah!” of 3D in a theme park was still an exciting thing for guests rather than being rather expected, and so many of the gags being built around the Muppets finding different ways to shove something toward the camera really dates it in the same way that old 3D films holding stuff out to the camera date them. If it was a show that just happened to be in 3D rather than a show constantly referencing that gag I don’t think it would’ve felt as of it’s time as it ultimately did as 3D became more and more prominent in theme parks.
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The “constant references” were rather pointed satire of the 3D obsession. The proliferation of the form only makes the gags more relevant and LESS dated. Satirical, anarchic metahumor is what the Muppets do. The first muppet movie started with the cast sitting down to watch thier own movie. Muppet 3D also featured a huge number of AAs and a live performer, making it far less dated then attractions where the 3D is the selling point like Philharmagic.
 
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Professortango1

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Casper Gutman said:
The “constant references” were rather pointed satire of the 3D obsession. The proliferation of the form only makes the gags more relevant and LESS dated. Satirical, anarchic metahumor is what the Muppets do. The first muppet movie started with the cast sitting down to watch thier own movie. Muppet 3D also featured a huge number of AAs and a live performer, making it far less dated then attractions where the 3D is the selling point like Philharmagic.
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It actually comes across as very late 80's and early 90's meta humor of "we're going to do the corny thing that you expect, but we're going to acknowledge its cheap and corny, so it's fine! Not to mention punching down jokes on the audience, which also feels very late 80's/early 90's edgelordy. Haha, that guy in a Goofy mask is actually just an ugly woman! Such wit and cleverness!

MV3D was a product of its time. I'd even say slightly ahead of its time. But over 3 decades later, it feels definitely rooted in the past and a little cringe.
 
Casper Gutman

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Professortango1 said:
It actually comes across as very late 80's and early 90's meta humor of "we're going to do the corny thing that you expect, but we're going to acknowledge its cheap and corny, so it's fine! Not to mention punching down jokes on the audience, which also feels very late 80's/early 90's edgelordy. Haha, that guy in a Goofy mask is actually just an ugly woman! Such wit and cleverness!

MV3D was a product of its time. I'd even say slightly ahead of its time. But over 3 decades later, it feels definitely rooted in the past and a little cringe.
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I don’t think you actually understand what “punching down” and “edgelord” mean.
 
gerarar

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Professortango1

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Casper Gutman said:
In no way, shape, or form are the Muppets “edgelordy” or “punching down.”
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Except when saying that an audience member is so ugly that their face is mistaken for a Goofy mask. And then revealing it's a woman who you calling man-ish. Is that punching up? Insult humor is very edgelord.

I'm not saying "Cancel Muppets!" I'm just showing that the show contains humor that is dated and doesn't fit as well as it used to.

Also, the Muppets were known for falling into extreme violence and adult humor. Need I remind you of Statler and Waldorf singing a song about Burlesque dancers, trying to see up their skirts, and telling Beaker to "lift that bush" as a gag. I've always associated classic Muppets with being the uncle of shows like The Simpsons with their blend of absurdism, love of the characters, and pushing the envelope under the guise of being childish in appearance.
 
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Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Casper Gutman said:
The “constant references” were rather pointed satire of the 3D obsession. The proliferation of the form only makes the gags more relevant and LESS dated. Satirical, anarchic metahumor is what the Muppets do. The first muppet movie started with the cast sitting down to watch thier own movie. Muppet 3D also featured a huge number of AAs and a live performer, making it far less dated then attractions where the 3D is the selling point like Philharmagic.
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Philharmagic's CGI has also aged much worse than the practical sets and puppets used in Muppet-Vision

2003 Ariel doesn't hold up as well as even 2010 Rapunzel
 

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