EPCOT Test Track to be reimagined

[Moth]

The outside work moving to completion doesn’t suggest a delay.

Of course, daily thunderstorms have returned, so it doesn’t matter much when it reopens over the next few months. Between the expected ride system update-related downtimes and weather delays, it will be hard to get on.

Yeah, they've been speeding up on the courtyard, I think it's sooner rather than later. My before Labor Day guess is just to remain on the safe side but I think it opens before that.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yeah, they've been speeding up on the courtyard,

Sigh… Being able to see changes doesn’t mean things have been sped up.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Sigh… Being able to see changes doesn’t mean things have been sped up.

You don’t typically see final paving and signage until a project’s construction is done. Of course, any testing issues could still lead to trouble. It’s happened before on TT!

 

[Timothy_Q]

Every construction project:

*Opening in December*

Steel beam goes up in january: wow construction is really speeding up I can't believe this is only opening in December!

No noticeable change in February: wow why is there no movement in this I don't think this will be opening in December!

 

[Moth]

Sigh… Being able to see changes doesn’t mean things have been sped up.

Sigh.... Typically getting the main statue/sign up and pavement in the plaza means things are getting close to a finished state.


We should go back to saying Big Thunder should open early because of the track being done.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You don’t typically see final paving and signage until a project’s construction is done. Of course, any testing issues could still lead to trouble. It’s happened before on TT!

Sigh.... Typically getting the main statue/sign up and pavement in the plaza means things are getting close to a finished state.


We should go back to saying Big Thunder should open early because of the track being done.

Sequencing doesn’t work like that.

 

[James Alucobond]

You don’t typically see final paving and signage until a project’s construction is done. Of course, any testing issues could still lead to trouble. It’s happened before on TT!

He means the pace hasn’t actually changed in the way “speeding up” implies. Work is happening as scheduled.

 

[Moth]

He means the pace hasn’t actually changed in the way “speeding up” implies. Work is happening as scheduled.

Yeah, I meant "speed up" as in "it looks like it's almost done" versus them actually going faster and rushing it haha. Apologies.

 

[lazyboy97o]

He means the pace hasn’t actually changed in the way “speeding up” implies. Work is happening as scheduled.

But also, Disney isn’t going to just dictate a sequence. Seeing one area of work get done doesn’t tell you much of anything about others. When work is done is based on a variety of factors and it’s not just going to be held off.

 

[larryz]

Unless something catastrophic happened.

Could it be the dreaded SINKHOLE?!?!?

 

[Moth]

Could it be the dreaded SINKHOLE?!?!?
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Yeah. It finished digesting Horizons. It wants seconds.

 

[TrippedUp]

But also, Disney isn’t going to just dictate a sequence. Seeing one area of work get done doesn’t tell you much of anything about others. When work is done is based on a variety of factors and it’s not just going to be held off.

Major construction projects absolutely have a proscribed sequence. Teams dont just go around completing work as they have time and material available. That would be absolute chaos and require tons of rework.

In this example, laying concrete means theyre done with heavy machinery that could mar the finish in the area. You can lay plywood, but its not always effective. Signs are delicate and expensive, they typically go in last. Once they release to landscaping, a project is typically at or near ending hard hat restrictions.

 

[UNCgolf]

Major construction projects absolutely have a proscribed sequence. Teams dont just go around completing work as they have time and material available. That would be absolute chaos and require tons of rework.

In this example, laying concrete means theyre done with heavy machinery that could mar the finish in the area. You can lay plywood, but its not always effective. Signs are delicate and expensive, they typically go in last. Once they release to landscaping, a project is typically at or near ending hard hat restrictions.

Finishing the courtyard doesn't mean the interior is finished (or even close to finished), though.

I've seen buildings that looked complete from the outside (even had landscaping) yet the interior had months of work remaining.

I'm not suggesting that's standard SOP or something you'd find regularly, but it certainly happens.

 

[Moth]

I've seen buildings that looked complete from the outside (even had landscaping) yet the interior had months of work remaining.

A good example of this is actually currently underway at Epic Universe: with the rumored Italian and Mexican restaurants having their exteriors all ready but the interiors needing work done on them.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I've seen buildings that looked complete from the outside (even had landscaping) yet the interior had months of work remaining.

or for years in the case of Disneyland's Haunted Mansion

 

[lazyboy97o]

Major construction projects absolutely have a proscribed sequence. Teams dont just go around completing work as they have time and material available. That would be absolute chaos and require tons of rework.

In this example, laying concrete means theyre done with heavy machinery that could mar the finish in the area. You can lay plywood, but its not always effective. Signs are delicate and expensive, they typically go in last. Once they release to landscaping, a project is typically at or near ending hard hat restrictions.

Where did I say they don’t have a proscribed sequence? I said Disney, the client, is not dictating a sequence that doesn’t serve a purpose, just leaving the entrance until late in the project. Rides are designed to have distinct front of house and back of houses spaces and access. They even provide access throughout their circuit for ongoing maintenance support. They don’t need the front entrance to do a lot of work on the ride area and they’re not going to just leave it undone.

Finishing the courtyard doesn't mean the interior is finished (or even close to finished), though.

I've seen buildings that looked complete from the outside (even had landscaping) yet the interior had months of work remaining.

I'm not suggesting that's standard SOP or something you'd find regularly, but it certainly happens.

For certain building typologies it is very much the norm. It’s most common with buildings that are intended to have multiple tenants that will customize spaces to their use. It’s also why big warehouses make great showbuildings, because they’re big open spaces that can be filled as desired.

A good example of this is actually currently underway at Epic Universe: with the rumored Italian and Mexican restaurants having their exteriors all ready but the interiors needing work done on them.

There are also some spaces in the Wizarding World.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Sigh… Being able to see changes doesn’t mean things have been sped up.

Of all the people on this site to be questioning about things, Bellhop and Moth are not among them. They are some of the most trustworthy people here and consistently have a clue of what they’re saying when they talk about in progress work. Their track record of being people whose word you can trust is impeccable, and they don’t just say things to say them.

 

[Moth]

Of all the people on this site to be questioning about things, Bellhop and Moth are not among them. They are some of the most trustworthy people here and consistently have a clue of what they’re saying when they talk about in progress work. Their track record of being people whose word you can trust is impeccable, and they don’t just say things to say them.

I don't think Lazy is someone to question either. They know their way around the town and are knowledgeable.

 

[V_L_Raptor]

Would they push ahead to finish exterior work to cut down on weather delays during the rainy season?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Would they push ahead to finish exterior work to cut down on weather delays during the rainy season?

Weather is absolutely considered when scheduling work. A good schedule would have work planned to finish before rains typically pick up versus having to push ahead.