TalkingHead
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Yep, Captain America 4 had like two months all to itself with hardly any competition and we saw how it did.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Animaniac93-98
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I don't think the next CEO is going to change anything regarding Marvel and Disney's tentpole strategy.
Maybe some characters or IP don't get sequels, but that's it.
I'm also skeptical of Disney pulling back on live-action remakes if Stitch is expected to do as well as it does.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
As long as he keeps his hipster movies the hell away from large franchises you need to bank…I support whatever he wants
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
2014: Guardians of the Galaxy - 160.7 million global opening weekend
“Wow! What an amazing opening! The MCU is invincible! This will launch a trilogy, theme park attractions, and make several characters iconic fixtures of global pop culture!”
*inflation
*devastating pandemic and technological and economic changes that destroy theatrical exhibition - it never fully recovers
*ruling party labels Disney an Enemy of the People
2025: Thunderbolts* - 162.1 million global opening weekend
“What a bomb! The MCU is dead! No one likes it anymore! It’s marginal to pop culture, just like the other most successful media franchise in history!”
“Wow! What an amazing opening! The MCU is invincible! This will launch a trilogy, theme park attractions, and make several characters iconic fixtures of global pop culture!”
*inflation
*devastating pandemic and technological and economic changes that destroy theatrical exhibition - it never fully recovers
*ruling party labels Disney an Enemy of the People
2025: Thunderbolts* - 162.1 million global opening weekend
“What a bomb! The MCU is dead! No one likes it anymore! It’s marginal to pop culture, just like the other most successful media franchise in history!”
TalkingHead
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Disagree. Current strategy is Iger’s baby and shows diminishing returns. Too late for him to course correct even if he were inclined.
Next CEO is going to inherit a Disney with declining BO and will have to make some decisions about how to respond.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
I agree with you on all of that. But as a very wise woman once said "Hey, that's Hollywood baby!"
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Agreed which would put it in the profitable during theatrical category.
Its not though. The problem is that TP and others who like to make wild speculation on the losses of Studios leave off the rest (and still over inflates even the theatrical because he likes to attribute the entire marketing budget to theatrical). A movie doesn't stop earning Studios money just because it leaves the theaters, this is another reminder of that. So you have to look at the actual end of year financials to see the reality of any profit/loss, and TP and others never do that. They just make their claim that Studios loses huge sums of money and moves on, never coming back and updating the situation. That's why @BrianLo and others tracking the actuals puts things into perspective and shows the reality, that it was not as dire in most situations as TP and others claimed.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
I truly hope you have a great time. FQ is one of my two favorite resorts.
Unfortunately, the knowledge of industry history and practices that makes me forgiving or even celebratory about Disneys studio side makes me deeply negative about the theme park side!
So I’ll just grumble.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I mean…do you really need to be told what’s wrong with your fit this time?
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Here's the first pass at box office this weekend, gang.
Thunderbolts had a $75 Million opening domestically, which puts it right in line with the estimate of $75 Million (good call from Variety!). The Amateur is now dropping, and miraculously Rachel Zegler's Snow White is still hanging on to 300 theaters (how many screens?!?!) nationwide in her attempt to break $90 Million domestically for that mega-budget bomb.
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thenumbers.com
Thunderbolts had a $75 Million opening domestically, which puts it right in line with the estimate of $75 Million (good call from Variety!). The Amateur is now dropping, and miraculously Rachel Zegler's Snow White is still hanging on to 300 theaters (how many screens?!?!) nationwide in her attempt to break $90 Million domestically for that mega-budget bomb.
The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for October 31, 2025
Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of October 31, 2025
thenumbers.com
Casper Gutman
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
100%
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
You’re lying!!Here's the first pass at box office this weekend, gang.
Thunderbolts had a $75 Million opening domestically, which puts it right in line with the estimate of $75 Million (good call from Variety!). The Amateur is now dropping, and miraculously Rachel Zegler's Snow White is still hanging on to 300 theaters (how many screens?!?!) nationwide in her attempt to break $90 Million domestically for that mega-budget bomb.
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The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for October 31, 2025
Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of October 31, 2025
(I just want ahead and got it out of the way so the posters with the Iger fan club podcasts don’t have to bother
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The expectations change over time
The trend is a clear loss in momentum for marvel
As is the case with Disney on the whole
Now the excuses of how Disney+ makes so much money with these things…even though it does NOT are sure to flow (please not today
)…these are problems that don’t seem to be self correcting
Bad management
…I feel like that’s enough. Can’t wait for the contrarian to be contrarian stuff to start
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Adjusted for inflation in US Dollars, a 160.7 Million global opening weekend in 2014 would be the equivalent of $216.7 Million in 2025. Or roughly, Thunderbolts just had a global opening weekend that was 60% of Guardians of the Galaxy.
And domestically, Thunderbolts just had an opening weekend that was 58% of Guardians of the Galaxy.
Here's how those domestic opening weekends and overall numbers look adjusted for inflation from 2014 to 2025. Thunderbolts will need to do over $1 Billion global box office to meet the Guardians of the Galaxy numbers ...
CPI Inflation Calculator
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Adjusted for inflation in US Dollars, a 160.7 Million global opening weekend in 2014 would be the equivalent of $216.7 Million in 2025. Or roughly, Thunderbolts just had a global opening weekend that was 60% of Guardians of the Galaxy.
Here's how those domestic opening weekends looks adjusted for inflation from 2014 to 2025. Thunderbolts will need to do over $1 Billion global box office to meet the Guardians of the Galaxy numbers ...
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CPI Inflation Calculator
This really isn’t that hard, is it?
And my thing - as always - is that Disney is not doing ART!!
they need the cash from this kinda thing - to say nothing of the ancillaries where they bank profit - way more now that in 2014. They’re in a totally different place now than they were from a business standpoint then
And not a “good” one at all
TP2000
Well-Known Member
It's not. And I hate math and at 2:30pm I'm still working off one sociable Mimosa from brunch, which is hard as an older man who has never been a day drinker.
To be fair, it was the Google and The Numbers (with their handy Inflation Adjusted tab on each page) that did most of the work. But it's easy for anyone to see on your screen.
The Numbers - Where Data and the Movie Business Meet
The Numbers provides detailed movie financial analysis, including box office, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports, and release schedules.
thenumbers.com
Casper Gutman
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Both films introduce a new team of emotionally damaged antiheroes. Both got ecstatic reactions from critics and the public. Thunderbolts made slightly more in its opening weekend.The expectations change over time
The trend is a clear loss in momentum for marvel
As is the case with Disney on the whole
Now the excuses of how Disney+ makes so much money with these things…even though it does NOT are sure to flow (please not today
…these are problems that don’t seem to be self correcting
Bad management
…I feel like that’s enough. Can’t wait for the contrarian to be contrarian stuff to start
GotG was released right after Avengers, Iron Man 3, Winter Soldier, and right before Avengers 2.
Thunderbolts comes after what you and others have been screaming is a historic string of MCU flops. In some cases, as with The Marvels, that’s even been true.
You have NOTHING. And the people telling you this aren’t the contrarians. Read the trade press - you’re the contrarian here.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It's not. And I hate math and at 2:30pm I'm still working off one sociable Mimosa from brunch, which is hard as an older man who has never been a day drinker.
To be fair, it was the Google and The Numbers (with their handy Inflation Adjusted tab on each page) that did most of the work. But it's easy for anyone to see on your screen.
The Numbers - Where Data and the Movie Business Meet
The Numbers provides detailed movie financial analysis, including box office, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports, and release schedules.
But what about the “4th dimension Disney excusy math” that has infected this thread since it started with frequency?
…try and keep with the times, slacker
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s Disney…stock ticker DIS
They need to make money on these…now more than ever.
It’s not “art”. That’s the deal…cry and scream all you want.
Now…if they get legs and this succeeds…I’ll welcome it.
That is not the place where it’s at right now