Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Tha Realest]

I’m afraid @Casper Gutman is right, and this kind of thing will become a trend.

Why is this a bad thing? It’s an unalloyed success for movie theaters, which desperately needs one.

Those who are going genuinely seem to be enjoying the experience. Why are you shaming this?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah, guy at work's daughter INSISTED they had to go opening night, so they had tickets for a while.

My take on it. It was a really dumb movie, but dumb in the best possible way. It was EXACTLY what it should be, and that was silly, ridiculous, and a TON of fun. And I'd say the box office combined with the viewer reviews vs the "Critics" kind of shows that out. If your top priority going to a movie is just to laugh and enjoy the film, this is for you. If your top priority is to analyze the use of a camera angle and single line in the movie, this is not for you.

Minions movies are complete stupidity…which is why I never miss one in the theaters

Dumb can be good…when your brain doesn’t get alot of time off

 

[celluloid]

Minions movies are complete stupidity…which is why I never miss one in the theaters

Dumb can be good…when your brain doesn’t get alot of time off

Totally. Sometimes I want a circular treat. Sometimes a bagel, sometimes I am down for a doughnut.

For what it is worth, Minecraft was Jason Mamoa's best acting for me since he did that Superbowl commercial where he took his appearance off to reveal a different guy.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Unsurprisingly, current events may impact box office returns:

China to Reduce Imports of Hollywood Films as Trade War Escalates

The China Film Administration said it would "moderately reduce" the number of American films the country imports in response to Donald Trump's tariffs.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

“We will follow market rules, respect the audience’s choice, and moderately reduce the number of American films imported. China is the world’s second-largest film market. We have always adhered to a high level of opening up to the outside world and will introduce more excellent films from the world to meet market demand.”

 

[DKampy]

Why is this a bad thing? It’s an unalloyed success for movie theaters, which desperately needs one.

Those who are going genuinely seem to be enjoying the experience. Why are you shaming this?

It will send Studios a message of hey we don’t even have to try anymore

 

[celluloid]

It will send Studios a message of hey we don’t even have to try anymore

To be fair, That is alway ebb and flow. And it is not based on one trend.

"The book was better" will just become "The game" was better more frequently.

Books, Toys, Media.

The good news is, at the end of the day at times we will still get good stories out of them.

I would rather 50 movie get greenlit and budgeted with good stories being told 10 percent of the time and great stories being told 2 percent of the time than less production.

Just a thought.

 

[Disney Irish]

To be fair, That is alway ebb and flow. And it is not based on one trend.

"The book was better" will just become "The game" was better more frequently.

Books, Toys, Media.

The good news is, at the end of the day at times we will still get good stories out of them.

I would rather 50 movie get greenlit and budgeted with good stories being told 10 percent of the time and great stories being told 2 percent of the time than less production.

Just a thought.

Is it good stories though if its just a retelling of the latest popular video game?

I agree that there is nothing wrong with "dumb" movies from time-to-time, but when that becomes most of the output being pushed to theaters, well that isn't a good thing in the long run in my opinion.

We hear cries from fans that they want more originality, but when that original content that gets pushed out isn't getting an audience studios just pump out more of what makes money, the dumb stuff with no real stories.

 

[celluloid]

Is it good stories though if its just a retelling of the latest popular video game?

Probably not, but could be.

But the same could be said from Fairytales. Specifically made by the same studio...hmmm.

and good stories are not mutually exclusive. It is not originality that matters as much as how well a story is told. Originality of theme is a nice bonus. It just tends to win when it has a slant.

 

[DKampy]

To be fair, That is alway ebb and flow. And it is not based on one trend.

"The book was better" will just become "The game" was better more frequently.

Books, Toys, Media.

The good news is, at the end of the day at times we will still get good stories out of them.

I would rather 50 movie get greenlit and budgeted with good stories being told 10 percent of the time and great stories being told 2 percent of the time than less production.

Just a thought.

I Wii be more then fine with with movies based on games…I think there is good stories to be mined there… I have enjoyed some media based on video games such as Last of Us and Falliut

I do think some Studios may try to create a social media trend…. As they already did with the Morbius rerelease and it’s Morbin time and failed

I also don’t want to see a trend of people yelling lines and throwing popcorn at the screen…. If that happened in a screening I attended I would be very annoyed

 

[celluloid]

I do think some Studios may try to create a social media trend…. As they already did with the Morbius rerelease and it’s Morbin time and failed

I also don’t want to see a trend of people yelling lines and throwing popcorn at the screen…. If that happened in a screening I attended I would be very annoyed

Yeah. I think that is an unfortunate social media crap of disrespect and a very loud five percent (or probably a lot less)
They can't set out to make it a cult classic so fast, that is what it feels like they tried to do, and a theater definitely is not on board for obvious reasons in most cases.

Influence is a dangerous thing sometimes.

 

[Disney Irish]

Probably not, but could be.

But the same could be said from Fairytales. Specifically made by the same studio...hmmm.

and good stories are not mutually exclusive. It is not originality that matters as much as how well a story is told. Originality of theme is a nice bonus. It just tends to win when it has a slant.

Just my opinion but if its a video game story just told on the big screen, that isn't a "good" story, that is a "meme" story. And that is what I consider the Minecraft movie, a meme movie. Its told for the lolz.

Original stories, even if based on another property, is more a rarity these days and its a shame.

 

[celluloid]

Just my opinion but if its a video game story just told on the big screen, that isn't a "good" story, that is a "meme" story. And that is what I consider the Minecraft movie, a meme movie. Its told for the lolz.

Original stories, even if based on another property, is more a rarity these days and its a shame.

I can say the same at about a board game or popular toys from pop culture. It depends on what is done with it. I get the concern.
It had a story of a creative kid going to a creative world. It could have been done much better, but it was not like it did not have any story. It was just the odd Jared Hess movie humor(I thought the real world was more entertaining because of this, funny enough)
Quality will out. Even with nasty inbetween.

 

[Tha Realest]

Just my opinion but if its a video game story just told on the big screen, that isn't a "good" story, that is a "meme" story. And that is what I consider the Minecraft movie, a meme movie. Its told for the lolz.

Original stories, even if based on another property, is more a rarity these days and it’s a shame.

So The Last of Us, produced by the team that gave us Chernobyl, is a “meme” story? So too is Fallout?

 

[Disney Irish]

I can say the same at about a board game or popular toys from pop culture. It depends on what is done with it. I get the concern.
It had a story of a creative kid going to a creative world. It could have been done much better, but it was not like it did not have any story. It was just the odd Jared Hess movie humor(I thought the real world was more entertaining because of this, funny enough)
Quality will out. Even with nasty inbetween.

Unfortunately I fear we are heading toward an Idiocracy type of situation with entertainment here in the near future.

 

[celluloid]

Unfortunately I fear we are heading toward an Idiocracy type of situation with entertainment here in the near future.

Ebb and flow for me.

The 70s was filled with mindless Disaster movies, Kentucky Fried Chicken and Airplane.

And all are entertaining and fun times in their own ways.

 

[Disney Irish]

So The Last of Us, produced by the team that gave us Chernobyl, is a “meme” story? So too is Fallout?

There are obviously outliers, especially on the small screen, but the now three biggest video game movies in the last 5 years, Mario, Sonic, and now Minecraft, have 100% been "meme" movies.

 

[Disney Irish]

Ebb and flow for me.

The 70s was filled with mindless Disaster movies, Kentucky Fried Chicken and Airplane.

And all are entertaining and fun times in their own ways.

I don't think you can really compare the "mindless" movies from the 70s or even 80s to the "meme" "mindless" stuff today, as even Towering Inferno had more story to it than most of the mindless stuff today.

 

[Tha Realest]

There are obviously outliers, especially on the small screen, but the now three biggest video game movies in the last 5 years, Mario, Sonic, and now Minecraft, have 100% been "meme" movies.

Good to know. Now that you’re done bemoaning the unoriginality of “video game” productions, you can now resume with telling us how excited you are for the success of Thunderbolts*, the 36th MCU theatrical release

 

[celluloid]

I don't think you can really compare the "mindless" movies from the 70s or even 80s to the "meme" "mindless" stuff today, as even Towering Inferno had more story to it than most of the mindless stuff today.

Every generation says this. It does not compare directly, nor should it.

Barbie was a better story than Towering Inferno and Poseidon Adventure. All fun and "dumb" for different reasons of course.

 

[Disney Irish]

Good to know. Now that you’re done bemoaning the unoriginality of “video game” productions, you can now resume with telling us how excited you are for the success of Thunderbolts*, the 36th MCU theatrical release

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the MCU is wholly original either, whether I'm excited for a particular movie or not. My point was that there needs to be more of a balance, and unfortunately it seems like the pendulum is swinging too far into the unoriginal "meme" type movies direction. Hopefully it'll swing back in the other direction soon, I just fear it won't because studios see too much profit from the "meme" movies.