Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[FrontierSpirit]

I want content that respects the heart of a franchise and honors the original vision.

I want that classic fairy-tale magic, the romance, the “Someday My Prince Will Come” fantasy where a strong, heroic prince sweeps in.

Where did that disappear to? Where is the strong masculine Prince Charming?

We girls love the strong masculine Prince that saves us. I do, not every story but I wanted him in this one. Why didn’t Disney deliver?

Instead, we get a lecture on leadership and empowerment that felt more like a TED Talk than an escape.

Snow White is a ‘progressive sermon’ that ditched the charm for a soapbox and nobody went.

women (me) can be a badass and romantic— Disney flattened Snow White into a one-note powerhouse.

Cast actors who sell the vision, not their own agendas, and don’t mess with what worked just to push a message.

Give us the magic we’re paying for.. maybe too strong. The magic we hope for, we wish for.

sometimes even the fiercest heroine, scratch that.. sometimes I want to be saved by a prince while I’m engaged in the magic of a movie.. and that’s okay. It’s why we show up.

We girls sometimes want to sing “Someday my Prince will come” in a packed movie theater.

It’s fun. This new Disney film was not fun.

I don’t always want to be a girl boss (except on Tuesday) and I never want to be lectured and Disney has been exceptional at that recently.

 

[LittleBuford]

I want content that respects the heart of a franchise and honors the original vision.

I want that classic fairy-tale magic, the romance, the “Someday My Prince Will Come” fantasy where a strong, heroic prince sweeps in.

Where did that disappear to? Where is the strong masculine Prince Charming?

We girls love the strong masculine Prince that saves us. I do, not every story but I wanted him in this one. Why didn’t Disney deliver?

Instead, we get a lecture on leadership and empowerment that felt more like a TED Talk than an escape.

Snow White is a ‘progressive sermon’ that ditched the charm for a soapbox and nobody went.

women (me) can be a badass and romantic— Disney flattened Snow White into a one-note powerhouse.

Cast actors who sell the vision, not their own agendas, and don’t mess with what worked just to push a message.

Give us the magic we’re paying for.. maybe too strong. The magic we hope for, we wish for.

sometimes even the fiercest heroine, scratch that.. sometimes I want to be saved by a prince while I’m engaged in the magic of a movie.. and that’s okay. It’s why we show up.

We girls sometimes want to sing “Someday my Prince will come” in a packed movie theater.

It’s fun. This new Disney film was not fun.

I don’t always want to be a girl boss (except on Tuesday) and I never want to be lectured and Disney has been exceptional at that recently.

Jonathan is strong, masculine, and saves Snow White by waking her from death with love’s kiss. He’s also very handsome to boot. Have you seen the film? If not, I suggest you do, as it sounds as if you’d actually enjoy the romantic elements quite a bit.

 

[Disney Irish]

Back on topic of Disney box office. Cap4 is about to cross $200M domestic. Still a disappointment for Marvel, so don't think this is some way to distract from that, just keeping things on topic to give updates.

And just so some posters don't think I'm trying to derail the conversation, Snow White is a bomb, a huge bomb, and will still be a bomb tomorrow, and next week, and next month.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I want the postmodern fun of the 1990s and 2000s, when skilled directors walked the line between respecting and poking fun at the silliness of the source material. I want whimsy and wit, a light touch and a twinkle in the eye.

 

[Casper Gutman]

So is everyone looking forward to the Skibidi Toilet movie? Michael Bay bought the rights and we’re sure getting it now.

 

[Chi84]

I want content that respects the heart of a franchise and honors the original vision.

I want that classic fairy-tale magic, the romance, the “Someday My Prince Will Come” fantasy where a strong, heroic prince sweeps in.

Where did that disappear to? Where is the strong masculine Prince Charming?

We girls love the strong masculine Prince that saves us. I do, not every story but I wanted him in this one. Why didn’t Disney deliver?

Instead, we get a lecture on leadership and empowerment that felt more like a TED Talk than an escape.

Snow White is a ‘progressive sermon’ that ditched the charm for a soapbox and nobody went.

women (me) can be a badass and romantic— Disney flattened Snow White into a one-note powerhouse.

Cast actors who sell the vision, not their own agendas, and don’t mess with what worked just to push a message.

Give us the magic we’re paying for.. maybe too strong. The magic we hope for, we wish for.

sometimes even the fiercest heroine, scratch that.. sometimes I want to be saved by a prince while I’m engaged in the magic of a movie.. and that’s okay. It’s why we show up.

We girls sometimes want to sing “Someday my Prince will come” in a packed movie theater.

It’s fun. This new Disney film was not fun.

I don’t always want to be a girl boss (except on Tuesday) and I never want to be lectured and Disney has been exceptional at that recently.

Was there really a lecture on leadership and empowerment in the movie?

 

[Casper Gutman]

People say they don’t want to be lectured to and then they make Barbie a smash hit.

 

[LittleBuford]

Was there really a lecture on leadership and empowerment in the movie?

As one who has watched it, I can confirm that there wasn’t. For most of the film, Snow White’s aim is to restore her father (whom she believes to be out of the kingdom) to the throne.

 

[FrontierSpirit]

lovedPeople say they don’t want to be lectured to and then they make Barbie a smash hit.

I loved Barbie and I think it’s becoming apparent Disney would have burnt Barbie to the ground. We all should be thankful Disney didn’t touch Barbie.
Whew!

 

[Chi84]

I loved Barbie and I think it’s becoming apparent Disney would have burnt Barbie to the ground. We all should be thankful Disney didn’t touch Barbie.
Whew!

So what is it you like about Disney?

 

[Chi84]

I loved Barbie and I think it’s becoming apparent Disney would have burnt Barbie to the ground. We all should be thankful Disney didn’t touch Barbie.
Whew!

Did you agree with America Ferrara’s monologue in Barbie? There is another poster who thought it was a lengthy lecture.

 

[FrontierSpirit]

So what is it you like about Disney?

For Snow White?
I wanted to sing “some day my prince will come” my mom used to have this wind up Snow White figurine that would play that melody.
I wanted to be swept off my feet by Prince Charming and sing that song in a dark theater.

Swept into Fantasy, just didn’t get it this time and was a major let down for me.

 

[DKampy]

That theater is kicking itself then…because one movie made money this weekend

Maybe/ maybe not…. Some still go see other movies…. The amount is not 0…I have seen movies at this theater that did single digits opening weekend that still had a decent enough crowd on a Sunday afternoon

I would argue except for very few event movies such as Avengers more than 2 screens is not really needed…. And frees up some space to show some movies other theaters may not be playing… which in that case this theater could reap the benefits

 

[FrontierSpirit]

Did you agree with America Ferrara’s monologue in Barbie? There is another poster who thought it was a lengthy lecture.

About contradictions? Do you feel different depending on what dress you wear or maybe just a different hair style for a date?

 

[Casper Gutman]

I loved Barbie and I think it’s becoming apparent Disney would have burnt Barbie to the ground. We all should be thankful Disney didn’t touch Barbie.
Whew!

Barbie literally stops the film to lecture the audience. Snow White doesn’t.

It’s almost like folks don’t engage with the content of the film but rather react based on a panoply of outside forces, notably a partisan echo chamber that tells them how they should interpret the movie. They feel a film lectured them because they were lectured to feel that way.

 

[Chi84]

About contradictions? Do you feel different depending on what dress you wear or maybe just a different hair style for a date?

That’s what you took away from that speech?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Maybe/ maybe not…. Some still go see other movies…. The amount is not 0…I have seen movies at this theater that did single digits opening weekend that still had a decent enough crowd on a Sunday afternoon

I would argue except for very few event movies such as Avengers more than 2 screens is not really needed…. And frees up some space to show some movies other theaters may not be playing… which in that case this theater could reap the benefits

Are we going to continue to argue that this is still a Business?

I love “art”…much more than the next guy…but Disney is not into art…they’re into free money and audience massaging…

That is sad…but it’s not changing this year or any other. Blame “market forces”…and I certainly didn’t start the fire

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Barbie literally stops the film to lecture the audience. Snow White doesn’t.

It’s almost like folks don’t engage with the content of the film but rather react based on a panoply of outside forces, notably a partisan echo chamber that tells them how they should interpret the movie. They feel a film lectured them because they were lectured to feel that way.

Barbie is not as fantastic as it was painted…more the flavor of the summer…though to say it was not more well conceptualized than this…or any of the god awful bland live action remakes…is “an opinion”…for sure

I’d say if any of the LAs had some thought to it…it was Cruella…which explains stone being there

The rest? God…terrible…some worse than the backwards time and place some of the source cartoons came from…

I think this team needs a name…how about “The Film
School 5”?

It’s catchy

 

[FrontierSpirit]

Barbie literally stops the film to lecture the audience. Snow White doesn’t.

It’s almost like folks don’t engage with the content of the film but rather react based on a panoply of outside forces, notably a partisan echo chamber that tells them how they should interpret the movie. They feel a film lectured them because they were lectured to feel that way.

“a panoply of outside forces, notably a partisan echo chamber that tells them how they should interpret the movie”

I feel like you just opened up a Webster and pointed at the word perceptual bias and then started lecturing. Feels so, I don’t know? Impersonal.
Do you really speak that way?

 

[FrontierSpirit]

Nice meeting you, I think I’ll wonder off now back to the theme park boards.
I’m new but this area feels very hostile.

But my fault. Lesson learned, only speak good things about Disney movies on this board. If the movie isn’t good, Don’t say anything.

I had to rant because the casting and story was horrible, won’t do it again.