Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Agent H]

I have no problem seeing a film with an actor I believe doesn’t care for me or some of my beliefs if the film looks otherwise appealing to me.

And please - let’s not act as if Zegler is in any way as good at what she does as Cameron is at directing, or has the same marketing cache or body of work. This is a silly comparison

Other than titanic what has James Cameron done that’s so great? Based on the trailers I’ve seen zeglar seems like the best part.

 

[Agent H]

Has anyone on here heard that Disney is going to pull the movie out of the theaters????
My husband commented to hearing that on the internet.
Of course, we all know that we can believe everything we read on the net, lol.

Uh….. no.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Are the populists in this thread who were very upset about Zegler putting all the below-the-line craftspeople out of work with poorly thought out social media posts at all worried about the effect that direct government repression will actually have on rank-and-file film and television workers?

 

[LittleBuford]

On a side note, everything about the movie looks so fake. We need to go back to practical sets and effects or at least give CGI teams the time to do their jobs properly.

I quite liked the CGI animals, I have to say. In general, other than the dwarfs, I didn't find the effects bad.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Other than titanic what has James Cameron done that’s so great? Based on the trailers I’ve seen zeglar seems like the best part.

OK… T2 and Aliens are two of the five or so best action films ever made. Pure masterpieces. True Lies is tons of fun.

I actually dislike Titanic and loathe Avatar but Cameron is still one of the best pop film directors of all time.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I quite liked the CGI animals, I have to say. In general, other than the dwarfs, I didn't find the effects bad.

I’m just going by commercials, but everything seems to have the fake, otherworldly feel that plagues modern blockbusters. It’s not a problem unique to Snow, but the ads make it look even more overpowering then usual.

If we’re going to have live-action remakes, let’s have them be live-action.

 

[LittleBuford]

And please - let’s not act as if Zegler is in any way as good at what she does as Cameron is at directing, or has the same marketing cache or body of work. This is a silly comparison

I wasn't comparing their levels of talent or achievement. Why are you suggesting I was?

People aren't saying, "I'm refusing to give my money to an actress who hates me—but if she were better at what she did, I might reconsider." The criterion they're invoking is solely political, and that's the basis of my comparison and of my question.

 

[LittleBuford]

I’m just going by commercials, but everything seems to have the fake, otherworldly feel that plagues modern blockbusters. It’s not a problem unique to Snow, but the ads make it look even more overpowering then usual.

If we’re going to have live-action remakes, let’s have them be live-action.

I personally don't mind the fakery, but I understand your point.

 

[BrianLo]

I see some heads are exploding that they are adding a Wish float to Starlight. But it is what we've long been saying. Box office is never the entire final straw with this company. Yes sometimes it's really, really bad like Strange World or this version of Snow White... but usually the company has a habit of watering the in between things in a way that few other studios do.

It's why Sleeping Beauty still has a castle.

 

[LittleBuford]

Other than titanic what has James Cameron done that’s so great? Based on the trailers I’ve seen zeglar seems like the best part.

To be clear, my comparison was not about their professional talents. There was nothing in my post that suggested it was.

 

[LittleBuford]

I see some heads are exploding that they are adding a Wish float to Starlight. But it is what we've long been saying. Box office is never the entire final straw with this company. Yes sometimes it's really, really bad like Strange World or this version of Snow White... but usually the company has a habit of watering the in between things in a way that few other studios do.

It's why Sleeping Beauty still has a castle.

That give me some hope that "This Wish" may end up being played in the parks. It's a lovely song.

 

[BrianLo]

That give me some hope that "This Wish" may end up being played in the parks. It's a lovely song.

I'd assume so. Entertainment always seems to be able to paint with a broader palate. Not to diss Hercules, but they are absolutely disproportionately obsessed with I can go the distance. So we never know where these things sneak back in a decade or two later.

 

[LittleBuford]

I'd assume so. Entertainment always seems to be able to paint with a broader palate. Not to diss Hercules, but they are absolutely disproportionately obsessed with I can go the distance. So we never know where these things sneak back in a decade or two later.

Right, that’s it—I’m blocking you! “Go the Distance” absolutely deserves the airtime it gets! The entire Hercules soundtrack is awesome (except, perhaps, Phil’s song).

 

[BrianLo]

Right, that’s it—I’m blocking you! “Go the Distance” absolutely deserves the airtime it gets! The entire Hercules soundtrack is awesome (except, perhaps, Phil’s song).

No, no, you mistake me. I love the song.

Just saying it wasn't really the most popular movie at the time, but seems to be quickly becoming a parks entertainment staple.

 

[LittleBuford]

No, no, you mistake me. I love the song.

Just saying it wasn't really the most popular movie at the time, but seems to be quickly becoming a parks entertainment staple.

Don’t worry, even if you didn’t love the song, you’re safe from my wrath!

 

[BrianLo]

Don’t worry, even if you didn’t love the song, you’re safe from my wrath!

I know we're not allowed to like live action remakes... but I kind of support that one.

 

[LittleBuford]

I know we're not allowed to like live action remakes... but I kind of support that one.

I kind of agree. I’m excited to see the stage musical too!

 

[Agent H]

OK… T2 and Aliens are two of the five or so best action films ever made. Pure masterpieces. True Lies is tons of fun.

I actually dislike Titanic and loathe Avatar but Cameron is still one of the best pop film directors of all time.

Never seen those

 

[CaptJackSparrow]

From what I hear there was no interest in the outdated IP and the movie they chose to make wasn’t that good.

Outdated IP. Like Happily Ever After, Snow White and the Huntsman, Cinderella, Into the Woods etc….

I personally think it would have done pretty well had it been released before 2020. It’s not a bad film in the larger context of the remakes.

why do you think this?

Not to pick a fight and be obstinate, Cap 4 is absolutely limping, but probably has a negligible loss at the end of the day. If Deadline is to be believed it’s currently kind of under a 10-15 million loss, as of now.

I don’t want to call it break even because there’s too much ideology here for that. But that seems about where it’s landing from the data I can gather.

That’s good? But I don’t think TWDC is interested in sorta breaking even while tying up 300m over 3-5 years.

 

[LittleBuford]

why do you think this?

Because it's no worse than some of the remakes that made more than a billion. I prefer it to Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin, and it's far, far better than The Lion King.