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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yes very immersive. I wonder if they would offer the same immersive experience if they thought most of the showings would sold out.
This isn't theaters offering it as "immersive", its the younger generation purposely sitting there in order to be "immersed" in the movie. Again its a trend that I don't know where it started but its become a thing.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
So because Mackie is captain america they went after him because of race? But race wasn't a thing when he was falcon and everyone loved him? I'm guessing that's what you mean by specific reasons. I don't think the vast majority of people were looking for anything with Mackie except making him Cap wasn't what people wanted. I'm sure for some race was the issue. There's intolerant people in the world, and there always will be. Yea people jumped the gun with not america comment. It was poorly worded. But that's died down fo the most part.
This post reminded of a Cap 4 box office video I saw about a month ago so I found it again. It’s by “Beyond the Trailer” which deals primarily with movie math if anyone’s interested.

This review was interesting to me because it dealt with demographics, it talked about how the Black Panthers domestic audience was 37% black, 35% white and 18% Hispanic, then it compared it to Cap4 who’s domestic audience was 35% white, 26% Hispanic, and only 23% black. It wasn’t just whites that held back the box office, black people didn’t show up in good numbers either.

It also talked about how the Marvels was largely let down by women, 55% of Wonder Woman’s audience were women, 45% of Capt Marvels audience were women but only 35% of the Marvels audience were women, they just didn’t show up like they did for previous female superhero movies.

It’s easy to blame a specific group
for failures but that often doesn’t line up with reality, it’s often that every group didn’t show up.
 
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TP2000

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For some reason, Gal just got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame - prematurely, IMO.

Have you ever been to Hollywood and seen the blocks after blocks of stars? People no one has ever heard of have stars on Hollywood Blvd. The handprints at Grauman's Chinese are relatively exclusive, the sidewalk stars are not.

I just Googled, and there are over 2,800 stars on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame. So Ms. Gadot certainly qualifies.

So its not as prestigious in my opinion as it once was. Not that she doesn't deserve it, but thought I should put it into perspective.

I honestly don't think it was ever truly prestigious. It might have been the first few years, when they were still installing them daily. But by the 1970's they already had a bunch of people you'd never heard of, or had no idea what they did.

When they're giving stars on Hollywood Blvd. to Alvin & The Chimpmunks, you have to question the whole thing. 🤣

Most of the people screaming about her comments now were utterly silent during months of racially-motivated attacks against her, because a significant portion of the population openly enjoys cruelty but refuses to accept any criticism.

Your posts entertain the heck out of me! Your world seems so bleak and scary, and yet so firmly entrenched in your mind; a world of Millions of people who "openly enjoys cruelty" and is all ruled over by "the country's most powerful people" who operate a well orchestrated "hate network" to instruct us miserables how to think and act in the most cruel and mean and immoral ways possible.

It's just fascinating to consider how it all works in your mind, but it's also entertaining as all heck to get a peek at!

Luckily, things certainly look and feel far more sunshiny and good on my end of reality. :)

Yeah sure at Disney Springs, not a surprise. How’s it doing in Jacksonville?

Here you go, in Jacksonville's popular Cinemark location tomorrow at 7:30pm. This isn't surprising at this point...

Spread Out, There's Plenty Of Room.jpg
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
For those checking random theaters… did you check those same theaters during other big blockbusters to compare and contrast the availability of seats. I have checked my local theater with other big movies for Sundays since that is our usual film going day…as it is the one day my wife and I both have a day off..And it is usually sparse for seats on Thursday…especially when the big movies are on several screens… then I will check a Saturday night and the theater will be crowded…. I have to buy tickets immediately to make sure I get 2 seats together
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
For those checking random theaters… did you check those same theaters during other big blockbusters to compare and contrast the availability of seats. I have checked my local theater with other big movies for Sundays since that is our usual film going day…as it is the one day my wife and I both have a day off..And it is usually sparse for seats on Thursday…especially when the big movies are on several screens… then I will check a Saturday night and the theater will be crowded…. I have to buy tickets immediately to make sure I get 2 seats together
It doesn’t matter much now. It will all be over soon and we can move on to something worth looking forward to. (thank god )

Stitch
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
For those checking random theaters… did you check those same theaters during other big blockbusters to compare and contrast the availability of seats. I have checked my local theater with other big movies for Sundays since that is our usual film going day…as it is the one day my wife and I both have a day off..And it is usually sparse for seats on Thursday…especially when the big movies are on several screens… then I will check a Saturday night and the theater will be crowded…. I have to buy tickets immediately to make sure I get 2 seats together
The only time I look at seat presales is when I’m buying tickets for a massive blockbuster like an Avengers film (that may sell out) or when I’m looking out of curiosity for this forum.

Which probably just makes the sales look worse because I’m used to seeing near sellouts.

As I said in my first post if I saw the current seating chart I wouldn’t bother to pre buy anyway, I’d just show up and buy tickets at the theater.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
Of course race wasn’t an issue when the African-American actor played an “African-American sidekick” role from the comics. It became an issue when he took on the leading role that awful people felt had to be a very particular race. If Bucky had become Cap, do you think there would have been any backlash? Really?

Who “dragged” the Gunn thing out and why?
But African Americans did not show up in numbers for Cap like they did Panther.

That little fact doesn’t neatly fit into the narrative your trying to build.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
For those checking random theaters… did you check those same theaters during other big blockbusters to compare and contrast the availability of seats. I have checked my local theater with other big movies for Sundays since that is our usual film going day…as it is the one day my wife and I both have a day off..And it is usually sparse for seats on Thursday…especially when the big movies are on several screens… then I will check a Saturday night and the theater will be crowded…. I have to buy tickets immediately to make sure I get 2 seats together
yes, that’s a thing many people have done time and time again on these pages, for multiple movies (Disney and non-Disney)
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
But African Americans did not show up in numbers for Cap like they did Panther.

That little fact doesn’t neatly fit into the narrative your trying to build.

The Black Panther movies are very much marketed toward a black audience, featuring a nearly all-black cast and a distinct Afro-Futurism vibe. The new Cap was marketed to general audiences as a run-of-the-mill political thriller with some superheroics that just happens to feature a black actor at its head. The marketing was pretty specifically trying to downplay that aspect of it. So of course you're seeing what you're seeing in the audience makeup.
 

easyrowrdw

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I don’t find the reaction to those comments at all proportionate. Indeed, the vitriol was bizarre at best and unhinged at worst. I am someone who cares passionately about the original film; that doesn’t give me the right to lose all reason when someone criticises it.
What do you think a proportionate response would be for someone who thinks her comments on the original movie are totally off base?

I haven’t seen many responses to her comments that fit your description but we might just have different frames of reference.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
Anything Disney - good or bad - is heightened within the media. It is one of the largest and most expansive media companies around. Its live action remakes had generally expected to be billion dollar earners. Until that point, Snow White - both the foundational Princess of the company and its most significant film - had yet to be remade.

So you combine all that with the lead actress giving an early insight into the production which seemed to suggest the creators weren’t too reverential of the source material, to the point of criticizing it (whether you happen to agree with those criticisms or not) and that’s a recipe for a media maelstrom. Keep in mind, little had been publicly shared about this production at that time other than some of the creators involved, so there was a relative vacuum in terms of news on this project. So it had the added bonus of being something of a first impression formed on this production.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
What do you think a proportionate response would be for someone who thinks her comments on the original movie are totally off base?

I haven’t seen many responses to her comments that fit your description but we might just have different frames of reference.
I was kind of thinking the same thing, I’ve seen many comments (and written some) about her being unlikable, smug, not very wise, etc but it’s not like people are threatening her, wishing ill will towards her (she’s the only unhinged one who’s done that), etc. Lots of people saying they won’t give the movie a chance because they don’t like her but that’s about as extreme as it’s got.
 

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