Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Irish]

If I was a public figure getting payed millions to sell movie tickets you can bet your behind I wouldn’t make the mistake she did.

This is basic stuff you learn when you are young. Never talk religion or politics.

It’s just selfish and petty of her to do so.

Except we have many many many examples of adults twice her age making gaffs just as bad if not worse.

Also I’m glad you think you’d be perfect however I guarantee even a public figure version of yourself is not, no offense, because no one is which is the point.

 

[Disney Irish]

So if you managed an investment firm you wouldn’t care what your employees said on social ?

This is not even the same thing.

It should be noted that actors no longer are “employees” in the traditional sense. They are basically “contractors” at this point. They are contracted for a role or period of time (such as for a number of episodes on a show) and that’s it. They are their own company, they are their own brand, which is why Studios bring them onto projects. But they aren’t regular “employees” like your investment banker example.

So while their contract might entail a clause about do’s and don’ts, they aren’t servants to only the “company”, they have their own lives and their own brand that they attend to that is separate from the “company”.

 

[Stripes]

The same thing is happening right now with Potter.

Celebrities know what going to happen if they take a role like this.

Snape is very clearly described in the books many times.

Not to mention that Harry doesn’t trust him just because of how he looks.

How does that sound now?

Hey look a black professor, I certainly don’t trust him!

Does the Snape character have any inherent attributes other than the visual descriptions in the books that suggest he must be white? Why would you assume that race would have anything to do with Harry’s distrust? Did Harry distrust Snape because he was white?

When you are actively involved in a project everything you say and do represents Disney.

Do Zegler’s comments also represent Netflix and A24 whose projects she was also actively involved in?

Zegler apologized for the insensitive comments, which were made after she was cast and the production had already wrapped filming. I don’t know what you expect Disney to do.

So if someone posted something inflammatory costing you let’s say 100 million, you would be fine with that as long as they said sorry?

Why would you think Disney is “fine” with what happened? If you were a businessperson at Disney, what would you do about this situation?

 

[LittleBuford]

So if someone posted something inflammatory costing you let’s say 100 million, you would be fine with that as long as they said sorry?

Who knows how much Zeglers comments cost this film but it’s more than the change you will find in your couch.

Why are you asking such questions? Obviously I wouldn’t be “fine” with such a situation. But neither would I advocate preemptively policing people’s use of social media. Most of us are trusted by our employers to conduct ourselves appropriately in public settings, including online. We are under no restrictions except those we place on ourselves. If we fail to behave appropriately within these parameters, then we have to face the consequences.

 

[Disney Irish]

Btw, this whole conversation is the exact reason the Snow White thread got shutdown. It’s starting to feel a bit heated here, so maybe it’s best to move away from this and just go back to talking directly about the Box Office and not the specifics of the incidents.

 

[Agent H]

Btw, this whole conversation is the exact reason the Snow White thread got shutdown. It’s starting to feel a bit heated here, so maybe it’s best to move away from this and just go back to talking directly about the Box Office and not the specifics of the incidents.

Yeah that’s the whole reason I bought up the looney tunes movie in the first place. To try and spark a different conversation.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

Btw, this whole conversation is the exact reason the Snow White thread got shutdown. It’s starting to feel a bit heated here, so maybe it’s best to move away from this and just go back to talking directly about the Box Office and not the specifics of the incidents.

it’s kind of hard not to talk about, it’s what everyone is talking about when thinking about this movie. Type in Snow White on your phone. Words like Controversy, Divisive describe the film.
It’s fascinating, I still think the movie will define itself once released and if the acting, music, film is good the movie should make 600 million.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

it’s kind of hard not to talk about, it’s what everyone is talking about when thinking about this movie. Type in Snow White on your phone. Words like Controversy, Divisive describe the film.
It’s fascinating, I still think the movie will define itself once released and if the acting, music, film is good the movie should make 600 million.


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Maybe the movie will speak for itself and be a hit,
Recent news shows this on the phone…

 

[Disney Irish]

it’s kind of hard not to talk about, it’s what everyone is talking about when thinking about this movie. Type in Snow White on your phone. Words like Controversy, Divisive describe the film.
It’s fascinating, I still think the movie will define itself once released and if the acting, music, film is good the movie should make 600 million.


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Except the conversation has drifted away from the core discussion which is Box Office.

One can talk about the Box Office of this movie without wading into the other topics, such as any political speech. And I admit I'm guilty of it too, which is why I'm trying to rein it back in and get us back on topic.

As for how it will do at the Box Office, I don't have a bead on this one. Cinderella I think is a good comp, but we'll have to see.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

I've been posting the leadup to the box office, which is the best thing we have at the moment. The presales and available seats at the Irvine Spectrum are pretty bleak looking. 99.5% of available seats are open.

Shaping up to be a massive bomb.

The statement I've been hearing around is it's almost poetic... Snow White started Disney, Snow White will end it.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

Except the conversation has drifted away from the core discussion which is Box Office.

One can talk about the Box Office of this movie without wading into the other topics, such as any political speech. And I admit I'm guilty of it too, which is why I'm trying to rein it back in and get us back on topic.

As for how it will do at the Box Office, I don't have a bead on this one. Cinderella I think is a good comp, but we'll have to see.

I think it does 600 million.

This is a thread of movies at the box office and the current state of affairs for the films we discuss. The discussion is all part of the current zeitgeist around the films and Snow White… couple of weeks ago it was Captain America.
Agree that people shouldn’t take anything said personally and not attack anyone personally.
Snow white will come and go and next year we will all be talking about another Disney film.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

The statement I've been hearing around is it's almost poetic... Snow White started Disney, Snow White will end it.

lol snow white could make literally $0 and this would not be true

 

[MagicMouseFan]

I've been posting the leadup to the box office, which is the best thing we have at the moment. The presales and available seats at the Irvine Spectrum are pretty bleak looking. 99.5% of available seats are open.

Shaping up to be a massive bomb.

The statement I've been hearing around is it's almost poetic... Snow White started Disney, Snow White will end it.

Ouch… I still think this has legs but it has to be a very good film.
We will find out when the public checks it out.

 

[Disney Irish]

I've been posting the leadup to the box office, which is the best thing we have at the moment. The presales and available seats at the Irvine Spectrum are pretty bleak looking. 99.5% of available seats are open.

Shaping up to be a massive bomb.

The statement I've been hearing around is it's almost poetic... Snow White started Disney, Snow White will end it.

Tracking still has it between $60-$70M opening, which is what Cinderella did 10 years ago and that went on to making $542M WW.

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So we'll see, but I don't know if the "Irvine Spectrum Pre-sales metric" is anything more than an interesting look at that particular theater.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think it does 600 million.

Its possible, we'll have to see once reviews start coming out and how it opens.

This is a thread of movies at the box office and the current state of affairs for the films we discuss. The discussion is all part of the current zeitgeist around the films and Snow White… couple of weeks ago it was Captain America.
Agree that people shouldn’t take anything said personally and not attack anyone personally.
Snow white will come and go and next year we will all be talking about another Disney film.

Except the topic leads to heated discussions as people are very passionate about it with their opinions which is what got the Snow White thread shutdown to begin with. And so its best just to move on as it appears its starting to get heated again. Besides its all been said before, so this is not covering any new ground, its just rehashing the last 2-3 years of discussions surrounding this movie and its stars.

Best to just go back to talking about the numbers since we're now less than 5 days from opening.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don't know if anyone is tracking this movie, and I don't follow Formula One myself, but this new Brad Pitt F1 movie looks good. Its an Apple movie being distributed by WB.

Here's the trailer -



Its releasing the last weekend in June, so its not competing directly against any Disney films other than ones already released in the weeks before.

 

[Agent H]

I've been posting the leadup to the box office, which is the best thing we have at the moment. The presales and available seats at the Irvine Spectrum are pretty bleak looking. 99.5% of available seats are open.

Shaping up to be a massive bomb.

The statement I've been hearing around is it's almost poetic... Snow White started Disney, Snow White will end it.

Snow White didn’t start Disney. The first thing Walt Disney animation studios ever made was the cartoon Alice’s wonderland in 1921.

 

[drizgirl]

I know people are going to claim that they would be in full support of her, but if she made those same comments accept in the opposite direction about team blue, I would have loved to see how supportive this forum was of her.

We will never know, but I for one would be equally disgusted. We should not wish ill will or hate on people . We can disagree. Heck get angry. But talking the way she did is not good for anyone.

I had the same thought. I really doubt it.

 

[coffeefan]

For comparison, here's how the other Snow White movies performed:

Snow White and the Huntsman
Grosses
DOMESTIC (39.2%)
$155,332,381
INTERNATIONAL (60.8%)
$241,260,448
WORLDWIDE
$396,592,829

Mirror Mirror
Grosses
DOMESTIC (35.5%)
$64,935,167
INTERNATIONAL (64.5%)
$118,083,355
WORLDWIDE
$183,018,522

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I think it does 600 million.

I’m sticking with my revised estimate of $350 million, if it opens to $55 million it’s going to really struggle to get beyond $400m, not impossible if word of mouth is amazing but opening weekend is vital to a films box office success.