MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[UNCgolf]

I feel like Harry potter world kinda disproves this

As we were discussing in another thread, Harry Potter was the major exception -- both parks have been chasing something that's basically unrepeatable since. There's probably not another IP that offers both the overall market/fan base and settings that are so perfectly suited for theme park translation.

It was unique. That's not to say other IPs can't work as singular lands (Pandora does nicely, e.g.), but it's unlikely any other IP is going to be the kind of hit that Harry Potter was from a theme park perspective.

 

[solidyne]

Len is no pixieduster. Nor is he a doom-and-gloomer. What biases he does have, he makes clear in his podcast. And his data speaks for itself.

 

[SamusAranX]

As we were discussing in another thread, Harry Potter was the major exception -- both parks have been chasing something that's basically unrepeatable since. There's probably not another IP that offers both the overall market/fan base and settings that are so perfectly suited for theme park translation.

It was unique. That's not to say other IPs can't work as singular lands (Pandora does nicely, e.g.), but it's unlikely any other IP is going to be the kind of hit that Harry Potter was from a theme park perspective.

Star Wars had that potential and Disney screwed up so royally. And they aren’t going to reinvest to make it truly what it deserves to be

 

[Chi84]

He’s definitely an influencer. Not dissing his site or his work or any of that. I’ve just noticed there has been a trend to be positive about this particular attraction from all of the theme park “media” websites and personalities.

Could be people like it.

 

[Tha Realest]

He’s definitely an influencer. Not dissing his site or his work or any of that. I’ve just noticed there has been a trend to be positive about this particular attraction from all of the theme park “media” websites and personalities.

Len is not a monolith; Len is legion. There is Len the TP data scientist; this Len shares, through TP and his podcast, and here, the data he collects and what it demonstrates. There is Len the podcaster, which reflects evidence and information he gathers as TP Len and Len, the amusement park enthusiast. There is Len the theme park fan, and that invariably bleeds into his role as podcaster and lastly, Len the message board poster (@lentesta ) where he shares his personal view or snippets of data he collects.

It is worth noting that none of these versions of Len are on a media list, and he often shares data that has cost him a pretty penny to collect.

 

[Agent H]

Star Wars had that potential and Disney screwed up so royally. And they aren’t going to reinvest to make it truly what it deserves to be

I actually really like galaxies edge.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Len is not a monolith; Len is legion. There is Len the TP data scientist; this Len shares, through TP and his podcast, and here, the data he collects and what it demonstrates. There is Len the podcaster, which reflects evidence and information he gathers as TP Len and Len, the amusement park enthusiast. There is Len the theme park fan, and that invariably bleeds into his role as podcaster and lastly, Len the message board poster (@lentesta ) where he shares his personal view or snippets of data he collects.

It is worth noting that none of these versions of Len are on a media list, and he often shares data that has cost him a pretty penny to collect.

@lentesta must be enjoying reading everyone's definition of what @lentesta is

 

[Trauma]

Could be people like it.

This doesn’t matter.

“ Would you rather ride Splash Mountain or Tiana’s Bayou Adventure”

That would be a good question on a survey.

We seem to forget that an attraction was replaced with another using money that could have been spent improving the park elsewhere.

The only justification of this capital expenditure is if the replacement is of higher quality than the original.

So you can like Tiana’s, but if you don’t think it’s a better overall experience than Splash then Disney has wasted their money.

 

[Splash4eva]

This doesn’t matter.

“ Would you rather ride Splash Mountain or Tiana’s Bayou Adventure”

That would be a good question on a survey.

We seem to forget that an attraction was replaced with another using money that could have been spent improving the park elsewhere.

The only justification of this capital expenditure is if the replacement is of higher quality than the original.

So you can like Tiana’s, but if you don’t think it’s a better overall experience than Splash then Disney has wasted their money.

Exactly. I love MMRR but no way would i choose that over TGMR….

 

[Chi84]

This doesn’t matter.

“ Would you rather ride Splash Mountain or Tiana’s Bayou Adventure”

That would be a good question on a survey.

We seem to forget that an attraction was replaced with another using money that could have been spent improving the park elsewhere.

The only justification of this capital expenditure is if the replacement is of higher quality than the original.

So you can like Tiana’s, but if you don’t think it’s a better overall experience than Splash then Disney has wasted their money.

I never cared much for the characters in Splash so it’s an improvement for me.

My kids agree; the grandkids are too young to have experienced Splash.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I never cared much for the characters in Splash so it’s an improvement for me.

My kids agree; the grandkids are too young to have experienced Splash.

There are folks who like Tiana, its not universally disliked.

I wish they could keep it 100 percent functional.

I sincerely thought the main reason for the reskin was to upgrade all the hardware to make the attraction reliable.

Boy was I wrong about that!

 

[Brer Oswald]

I don’t think the question is whether or not it was a waste of money. It obviously was. The question is whether or not it’s bad enough to justify dumping more money into to change it again.

The attraction itself is subpar. Where most of the damage was done was in how they handled the closure and how they took out such a fan favourite to get this attraction “made”. That damage is hard to undo without spending hundreds of millions to revert it to what it was (and then build a new attraction for the PatF fans). I also don’t see them “plussing” the current attraction much cause what’s the point? The people that dislike the attraction won’t suddenly like it. The people that don’t care either way still won’t care either way. Perhaps adding a “certain song” to the finale could change a few minds, but that would be pulling an Imagination 3.0.

I think they will sit on this for a decade or so and then revisit it based on where the park is at. I think it will also depend on the reception of the Villains E Ticket (presuming there even is one).

 

[Sir_Cliff]

“ Would you rather ride Splash Mountain or Tiana’s Bayou Adventure”

That would be a good question on a survey.

Not really. You'd first have to filter out those who had only been on one or the other and then find some way of adjusting for memory/nostalgia as memory is often unreliable. It honestly makes sense to just compare satisfaction ratings for Splash when it was open to Tiana and that would give you a sense of whether one is more positively evaluated than the other.

I don't know if the satisfaction ratings are higher or lower for Tiana and I say this as someone who still thinks Splash was the best attraction WDI ever came up with. Still, I am open to the possibility people enjoy Tiana the same amount or even more than they were enjoying Splash given the state it was operating in at MK when they closed it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I don’t think the question is whether or not it was a waste of money. It obviously was. The question is whether or not it’s bad enough to justify dumping more money into to change it again.

The attraction itself is subpar. Where most of the damage was done was in how they handled the closure and how they took out such a fan favourite to get this attraction “made”. That damage is hard to undo without spending hundreds of millions to revert it to what it was (and then build a new attraction for the PatF fans). I also don’t see them “plussing” the current attraction much cause what’s the point? The people that dislike the attraction won’t suddenly like it. The people that don’t care either way still won’t care either way. Perhaps adding a “certain song” to the finale could change a few minds, but that would be pulling an Imagination 3.0.

I think they will sit on this for a decade or so and then revisit it based on where the park is at. I think it will also depend on the reception of the Villains E Ticket (presuming there even is one).

Disney should spend whatever money to at least make it reliable.

The sad fact is they will not put money in it to fix it, just enough to keep it limping along, just like before the reskin.

In my opinion, theme aside, this reskin was a failure as it applies as to how many scenes we have now and a big failure in terms of reliability.

 

[Trauma]

I never cared much for the characters in Splash so it’s an improvement for me.

My kids agree; the grandkids are too young to have experienced Splash.

My kid hates Tiana’s. She rode it once and didn’t even want to go on it again. I’m not sure what our kids think really matters beyond how Tiana’s fits into a trip.

 

[Trauma]

Not really. You'd first have to filter out those who had only been on one or the other and then find some way of adjusting for memory/nostalgia as memory is often unreliable. It honestly makes sense to just compare satisfaction ratings for Splash when it was open to Tiana and that would give you a sense of whether one is more positively evaluated than the other.

I don't know if the satisfaction ratings are higher or lower for Tiana and I say this as someone who still thinks Splash was the best attraction WDI ever came up with. Still, I am open to the possibility people enjoy Tiana the same amount or even more than they were enjoying Splash given the state it was operating in at MK when they closed it.

It’s in a worse state of operation now.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Kids can surprisingly be more mature than parents.

I wonder why she would feel so strongly about a ride as to “hate” it.

Tonal whiplash perhaps? Splash tried to be scary leading up to the big drop. This braced kids for the impact. With TBA it goes from “happy fun time” to what would be a scary thrill to kids with the drop of a hat. I’ve seen a few POVs where it traumatized the kids.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Tonal whiplash perhaps? Splash tried to be scary leading up to the big drop. This braced kids for the impact. With TBA it goes from “happy fun time” to what would be a scary thrill to kids with the drop of a hat. I’ve seen a few POVs where it traumatized the kids.

I mean, maybe?

Trying to think if I "hated" any rides on my first trips to Disneyland and Walt Disney World. The closest I can come up with is Mission to Mars seeming very dated.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Come on folks, there are 10s and 10s of folks who like Tiana

 

[Chi84]

Tonal whiplash perhaps? Splash tried to be scary leading up to the big drop. This braced kids for the impact. With TBA it goes from “happy fun time” to what would be a scary thrill to kids with the drop of a hat. I’ve seen a few POVs where it traumatized the kids.

Sure, that's it.