OK, but you framed it in terms of times having changed, as if referring to some generally observable social/cultural shift that has turned sexuality from a non-issue into an issue. If that wasn't what you meant, I'm not sure what the point of your post was.
I lived in the 60’s too and that’s not at all what I saw. You are fortunate to have gone to a school with kind and accepting students.
I'm not going to speak for the gay community here, but I'll just say that you two must have either lived in very accepting communities or aren't remembering or maybe aren't being truthful about that time period.
Does it matter, he's in it so brings whatever star power he still has to the movie.
I went to school in the '80s and '90s and was insulted for being gay on multiple occasions (even though I was deeply closeted at the time, including to myself). Only the other month, my partner and I were walking down the street (our hands not held together) and someone rolled down their car window to call us f_gs.
I mean, he just acknowledged that he was passed over for promotion because he was gay, which makes the denialism even more surreal!
Obviously it speaks to the franchise’s branding issues. This feature was tied closely to a D+ series just like The Marvels was. Neither one came storming out of the gates. The next Star Wars feature is following the same series-feature game plan. Bad idea.
Well it remains to be seen if its a bad idea or not. But that is neither here nor there in relation to Ford's participation in the film.
I’m so sorry
Thank you. The namecalling from the car was pretty suprising. Thankfully, that sort of thing is rare these days (at least where I live).
Um, maybe you didn't live through some "hellscape", but that doesn't mean it was some easy ride for the gay community during that time. All you have to do is go back and look at all the fear, outrage, and other violence surrounding the community during that time, some of which still occurs today. So it may never have affected you, but it certainly did the community.I remember it. Paul Lynde was in the center square every afternoon on national TV.
It wasn't a living hell. There were things that were dumb (I mentioned a few examples), and laws that needed to be repealed, but it wasn't some hellscape of being stoned to death or being pushed off the roofs of buildings. That still happens today in some countries, don't forget. Frankly, I'm glad I grew up then; I wouldn't trade my memories of the bars and discos and parties and friends I had for anything!
Its not for me to teach you. If you aren't aware of the violence, fear, and outrage that affected your own community during that time and still occurs today then I suggest you educate yourself, spend more than 8 seconds on it.
He knows anyway. He's posted on its elsewhere:
As @Chi84 has noted, we have to stop pretending that honest discussion is the aim here. If it were, the goalposts wouldn't keep moving. It really isn't worth engaging with.You think the 80's was fun, what with AIDS and everything?!? You should have seen the 1970's, when even an old queen like Paul Lynde had to talk in code on The Hollywood Squares.
Wait, it's all coming back to me now, I can even top that... try being an enlisted man in the service at a time when practicing homosexuals were not just illegal, they were national security concerns just waiting to be exploited by Soviet spies. There's where the real fun was at!
Yes, it was a rural school near an air force base, so we had the base kids too. Really, it was like that and I'm glad I lived in a time when that was possible. I know not everyone did.
It means that the views have changed. It was a non issue when I went to school. It was accepted and no one every commented negatively while at school. I'm sure there was murmurings out side of school. But nothing was acted on. I'm happy that I lived where I did and was a teenager in that time frame.
You lived in a situation where that was possible. I doubt it had to do with the “time.”
