Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yeah Deadpool and wolverine was really good but a lot of the fox x-men nostalgic stuff is lost on me and yes I am 17 I did not lie about that
Yeah it’s lost on you because you’ve only known the good stuff that came from the MCU (and some Spidey films evidently), which there is nothing wrong with that. But for those of us older that were around prior to the MCU we know all the stuff and have nostalgia for it. Heck some of us are old enough to remember and have watched Hulk when he was on TV. ;)
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You just don’t know how it was pre-MCU, if your profile age is to be believed. Back in the 90s-early 00s it was a different time for comic book movies.

There is a reason why everyone went crazy when Jackman came back as Wolverine in DP&W.
Most comic movies were low budget hatchet jobs prior to MCU…way fewer exceptions than those that followed the rules
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
Yeah it’s lost on you because you’ve only known the good stuff that came from the MCU (and some Spidey films evidently), which there is nothing wrong with that. But for those of us older that were around prior to the MCU we know all the stuff and have nostalgia for it. Heck some of us are old enough to remember and have watched Hulk when he was on TV. ;)
I’ve seen most of them but with some I just couldn’t be bothered like the latter 2 fantastic 4 movies it’s fine though your allowed to like whatever you want also the hulk tv show? My dad watched that when he was a kid
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I’ve seen most of them but with some I just couldn’t be bothered like the latter 2 fantastic 4 movies it’s fine though your allowed to like whatever you want also the hulk tv show? My dad watched that when he was a kid
Yes son, I'm probably right your dads age or older. ;)
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Sorry no offense it’s just weird how I’m maybe the youngest active poster on this site
As I recall we've had posters as young as 14 on this site, they mostly kept to the Imagineering forum as they like to dream up new rides and parks. But you've provided some good posts and banter here, so keep up with it. :)
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
A few good ones

Well…Superman…at least 🤷🏻‍♂️

MCU took a different approach…and the Nolan movies provided the gravitas
Most of the "bad" ones were too campy and just didn't bring the average viewer along, which is why the MCU and as you said Nolan was different. They brought comics to the masses in a way that no other did before outside of Reeves (before Superman 3/4).
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
As I recall we've had posters as young as 14 on this site, they mostly kept to the Imagineering forum as they like to dream up new rides and parks. But you've provided some good posts and banter here, so keep up with it. :)
oh that explains it I rarely go over there only really to check in on mirror Disneyland
 

brideck

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Speaking of the worldwide footprint of Stitch (from a couple pages back)... I was struck by the silent and symbolically important presence of Mickey Mouse & Stitch in The Seed of the Sacred Fig [an Iranian(!) movie] when I saw it yesterday. Definitely a known character around the world if he's showing up in the wardrobe of a movie like that.

I also misspoke earlier when I said that none of the movies I was seeing this weekend are Disney movies. The indie documentary we saw at our local art museum was Patrice: The Movie, a fantastic piece from ABC News/Hulu. I can't say much about it without getting political, but it centers around a disabled couple and their struggle to get married in modern America. Quirky, hilarious, and heartbreaking -- strong recommend.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Young is encouraged…there was once a bright rookie on one of the boards…exceptionally sharp at 15…they made him a moderator…

But the profiteering owners were in a devil cult and forced him out (not here)

He’s around…early 30’s now by my guestimation.

Gotta start somewhere
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member

Seems I ended up being right when I said this in the Mufasa thread last month about this "competition" -


What happened to Sonic 3? I thought international was going to save it and make it more successful than Mufasa? At this point its barely going to even make the same as the 2nd one while Mufasa is making way more, maybe even $200-300M WW more by the end of its run.

Sonic 3 has made $463M compared to Sonic 2's $414M (adjusted for inflation). So it seems like Sonic just has a cap with audiences and there was no way it was going to earn more than Mufasa no matter how both started out.
 

TP2000

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Have we all recovered from Super Bowl Sunday? :hungover:

It was a rather crummy game by the end of the 2nd quarter, but I hope your party was as good as mine was! 🥂

And that halftime show? Er... um.... erm.... Who was the lady in the red leather? Diana Ross, she was not. 🧐

Here's what the box office looked like on Super Bowl weekend. I expected A Complete Unknown to get a bigger bump from its Oscar nominations, but that didn't seem to happen. No one I know throws Oscars parties any more, so maybe someone here can remind me; does the Oscars BumpTM come after the nominations, or after the potential statues are awarded? I forget.

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Here's the thing though. Would you rather be the studio (Disney) that spent $300 Million on the movie's production and marketing and thus made $15 Million profit so far, or would you rather be the studio (Paramount) that spent $185 Million on the movie's production and marketing and thus made $51 Million profit so far?

If I were a Sharp Pencil Boy, I'd rather have the $51 Million profit banked by February, wouldn't you? 🤔

Mufasa: Production $200, Marketing $100, Domestic $141, Overseas $174 = $15 Million Profit
Sonic 3:
Production $122, Marketing $63, Domestic $140, Overseas $96 = $51 Million Profit

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BrianLo

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If I were a Sharp Pencil Boy, I'd rather have the $51 Million profit banked by February, wouldn't you? 🤔

Mufasa: Production $200, Marketing $100, Domestic $141, Overseas $174 = $15 Million Profit
Sonic 3:
Production $122, Marketing $63, Domestic $140, Overseas $96 = $51 Million Profit

This is an excellent one to watch to test out my hypothesis.

I have Sonic at 83.5 and Mufasa at 65. Virtually the same. The latter is still earning a lot more change.

Friendly bet at which finals higher in deadlines tournament?
 

BrianLo

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Holy… can’t say I haven’t heard of a movie before it hit a billion in the last two decades.

Inside Out 2’s what I presumed was unachievable benchmark of highest animated film WW is about to be toppled out of literally nowhere.

There’s even a vague chance Fire and Ash isn’t the biggest film of the year. Brownie points to whoever had that on their bingo card, which might have been no one.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member

Holy… can’t say I haven’t heard of a movie before it hit a billion in the last two decades.

Inside Out 2’s what I presumed was unachievable benchmark of highest animated film WW is about to be toppled out of literally nowhere.

There’s even a vague chance Fire and Ash isn’t the biggest film of the year. Brownie points to whoever had that on their bingo card, which might have been no one.
There is some question on how accurate the China numbers really are though as there is no outside accounting of it like they are in other countries. For example it was discovered back in 2016 that the Chinese film bureau was fudging numbers to make their domestic films look better over ones from other countries.

So I've always taken China numbers with a huge grain of salt, especially for their domestic movies.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
I expected A Complete Unknown to get a bigger bump from its Oscar nominations, but that didn't seem to happen. No one I know throws Oscars parties any more, so maybe someone here can remind me; does the Oscars BumpTM come after the nominations, or after the potential statues are awarded?

The bump usually takes two different forms:

1) A movie will get a lot more screens after nominations come out. This will naturally lead to increased box office returns or at least a series of better than expected holds. e.g. Poor Things went up 900 screens after nominations came out last year and made 40% of its domestic BO after noms. Ditto American Fiction, but the percentage bumps were even higher. If a movie is already out of theaters, it will be re-released, even if it's already on streaming, to try to take advantage of this.

2) A best picture nominee will hang around with 600+ screens all the way through the weekend of the Oscars. This leads to an unnaturally long tail that a movie would otherwise not get. [Note: Big winners will usually get a 1 or 2 week victory lap in theaters after the Oscars, but this doesn't typically amount to much money.]

Depending on the timing and scope of all of the above, this can add up to $5-$10m more than a movie would have made -- chump change to Disney, lifeblood to indie distributors.

This year looks a little weird. The fires in LA seem to have screwed up the timing of a lot of stuff. Nominations were supposed to come out on Fri, Jan 17, which should naturally lead into increased screens and dollars that first weekend (MLK). But the nominations were delayed almost a week. So movies (rightfully) expecting nominations, like Anora and The Substance, surged their screen counts MLK weekend, but didn't have Oscar nominations (yet) to promote. Subsequently, the increases were not as big as I think we would normally expect.

A Complete Unknown is kind of a different case in that it was a wide initial release and still basically on its regular screen trajectory when nominations came out, so it won't get the first kind of boost at all, just the long tail. Given its previous holds, I was thinking it would leg out closer to $80m domestically, but last week was a little worse than I would have expected. We'll see what happens.
 

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