DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[JackCH]

SeaWorld built three new coasters in three years.... They are obviously doing it wrong

I don’t have the data, but something tells me Seaworld has more incentive to build fast and draw people than the other Orlando parks.

Plus, straight coasters seem easier than the heavily themed experiences at Disney/Universal.

 

[LSLS]

Comparing to Sea World doesn't make sense. They are two companies that do things differently. Sea World relies on quickly adding things to get people coming through the doors, while Disney feels they have the base coming in so that they can defer all the costs over multiple years. As frustrating as it is to watch Disney drag things out for as long as they do as a fan, it's a strategy they can afford.

 

[J.E.Smith]

Oh dear, I just realized if they moved MuppetVision to the Magic Eye Theater, that would give Disney an excuse to turn Imagination into Muppet Labs with a Muppet IP crossover with Figment (which would be funny since Dave Goelz did voice Figment heh)

 

[Blobbles]

Oh dear, I just realized if they moved MuppetVision to the Magic Eye Theater, that would give Disney an excuse to turn Imagination into Muppet Labs with a Muppet IP crossover with Figment (which would be funny since Dave Goelz did voice Figment heh)

I think that was a real thing at one point. I’ve seen DSNY newscast talk about it and other insiders allude to it in the past.

 

[J4546]

Oh dear, I just realized if they moved MuppetVision to the Magic Eye Theater, that would give Disney an excuse to turn Imagination into Muppet Labs with a Muppet IP crossover with Figment (which would be funny since Dave Goelz did voice Figment heh)

id be ok with that

 

[WorldExplorer]

Magic Eye Theater does not have the infrastructure necessary to host Muppet Vision. Even if you dismiss the need for all the special effects (like broken walls) and Sweetums, it NEEDS the animatronics. The film makes no sense without them, as characters regularly address other characters in the opera boxes.

In a best case scenario where they were actually willing to undertake converting a theater to fit Muppet Vision (something I still find very unlikely), Magic Eye would be a very unlikely candidate for it to work in. It shares a building with a ride. Animatronics need ways to access them in case they break, so the show needs room outside of the room everyone sits in. What's behind the walls in there? If it's anything other than empty space, then you've got a real problem, and the odds of all of them not having anything important behind them is pretty unlikely.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Magic Eye Theater does not have the infrastructure necessary to host Muppet Vision. Even if you dismiss the need for all the special effects (like broken walls) and Sweetums, it NEEDS the animatronics. The film makes no sense without them, as characters regularly address other characters in the opera boxes.

In a best case scenario where they were actually willing to undertake converting a theater to fit Muppet Vision (something I still find very unlikely), Magic Eye would be a very unlikely candidate for it to work in. It shares a building with a ride. Animatronics need ways to access them in case they break, so the show needs room outside of the room everyone sits in. What's behind the walls in there? If it's anything other than empty space, then you've got a real problem, and the odds of all of them not having anything important behind them is pretty unlikely.

Magic Eye should have a custom show meant to utilize the motion floor and tickle gag.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Gonna throw this out there just because it's a way they could potentially make it work: Screenz!

I know. Would having the broken wall effect (projection mapping?) and the Bean Bunny and Statler and Waldorf balconies as screen-based versions satisfy the bulk of the show's elements to allow for a cohesive MV3D Encore? Is it a compromise that would be satisfactory? Hypothetical of course.

Sweetums would still cameo. The only missing elements would be the penguin orchestra pit and the Swedish Chef gag at finale. 85-90% of the base show and still retaining the 3D and 4D physical effects. The question is would subbing in screen versions of AA versions of Puppets be too far removed?

 

[J4546]

Could it go in hyperion?

 

[Blobbles]

Magic Eye should have a custom show meant to utilize the motion floor and tickle gag.

Tickle gag I get, but I feel the fans and motion seats in the theatre could really enhance the “vaccum-muppet” segment where everything gets sucked. The seats shaking around like they are actually about to get lifted from the floor? That’d be cool.


Also though, were my “muppet labs has been considered for figment in the past”
Comment correct? I don’t wanna go around spouting misinformation.

 

[Blobbles]

Gonna throw this out there just because it's a way they could potentially make it work: Screenz!

I know. Would having the broken wall effect (projection mapping?) and the Bean Bunny and Statler and Waldorf balconies as screen-based versions satisfy the bulk of the show's elements to allow for a cohesive MV3D Encore? Is it a compromise that would be satisfactory? Hypothetical of course.

Sweetums would still cameo. The only missing elements would be the penguin band and the Swedish Chef gag at finale. 85-90% of the base show and still retaining the 3D and 4D physical effects. The question is would subbing in screen versions of AA version of puppets be too far removed?

I think personally the balconies could still fit inside the theatre. I don’t know how essential that elevated stage part below the screen is but if they could gut it maybe sweetums and the penguins could fit? Not familiar with that space. Not sure about chef.


The exploded walls would be gone, also the fireworks on the ceiling and smoke pouring out of screen maybe?
Biggest loss would be the pre show area. Would lose all the fun gags.

Still dunno how good it would look though.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Can someone make another decade list with the rides and experiences removed or never built?

In total not impressed

2012- Snow Whites Scary adventure
2014 - Maelstrom, American Idol, Camp Minnie mickey, Backlot tour, Streets of America
2017 - Ellen’s Energy Adventure, Great Movie ride
2019 - Innoventions
2023 - Spash Mountain
2025- Dinoland
Unknown- ROA, Muppets

 

[MrPromey]

2010/11 was pretty empty like I said with additions, but that's not "decade(s)" like you originally posted. I think 2010/2011 is going to closer mirror 2025/26 as far as offerings. Except we'll get TT3 next year if you want to count that.

I just listed stuff that came to the parks. Like New Fantasyland opened with some stuff and then later came 7DMT. it was long enough to split them out vs. SWGE and Rise.

Except they were the same project - that construction ended up taking longer on the main component not allowing it to open along with the rest and then counting that as a second thing is basically rewarding them for the delay...

Also, the majority of your list weren't "additions".

And sorry, I think it's pretty sad you had to include something like Launch Bay which was never more than a glorified meet-and-greet that should have closed as soon as the actual land opened but somehow still exists to fill space - why not include the Epcot redevelopment preview center on that list if you're going to use things like that and the singalong that were equally minimal effort (and also another downgraded reskin of a previous attraction)?

I also didn't say decades with an "s". I said decade+ indicating more than 10 years but as I previously conceded, that was forgetting NFL that did add one attraction more than was removed along with a permanent meet-and-greet.

But I guess what I should have said was a decade+ with only the underwhelming NFL in response to Hogsmead and (mostly downgraded) reskins of existing attractions to show for it.

Again, agree to disagree.

 

[JD80]

Except they were the same project - that construction ended up taking longer on the main component not allowing it to open along with the rest and then counting that as a second thing is basically rewarding them for the delay...

Also, the majority of your list weren't "additions".

And sorry, I think it's pretty sad you had to include something like Launch Bay which was never more than a glorified meet-and-greet that should have closed as soon as the actual land opened but somehow still exists to fill space - why not include the Epcot redevelopment preview center on that list if you're going to use things like that and the singalong that were equally minimal effort (and also another downgraded reskin of a previous attraction)?

I also didn't say decades with an "s". I said decade+ indicating more than 10 years but as I previously conceded, that was forgetting NFL that did add one attraction more than was removed along with a permanent meet-and-greet.

But I guess what I should have said was a decade+ with only the underwhelming NFL in response to Hogsmead and (mostly downgraded) reskins of existing attractions to show for it.

Again, agree to disagree.

Stop putting emotions into my post, I'm not emotionally investing in proving one side or the other. I'm also trying not to be hypercritical or hyperdefensive here. I don't need you writing "It's pretty sad.." and putting intention behind my posts.

I am listing notable additions to the parks in that given year, that's it. You can infer what that means on your own.

New Fantasyland opened Dec 2012. 7DMT opened May of 2014. So if you took your vacation every may you saw something new in 2013 and 2014. You want to be critical about delays, go ahead. But it was something new in the park that year.

My only point is that WDW has, more often than not over the last 20 years, added something to the parks. You can spin your wheels arguing if it was an upgrade or downgrade, but it won't be with me.

 

[MrPromey]

Stop putting emotions into my post, I'm not emotionally investing in proving one side or the other. I'm also trying not to be hypercritical or hyperdefensive here. I don't need you writing "It's pretty sad.." and putting intention behind my posts.

I am listing notable additions to the parks in that given year, that's it. You can infer what that means on your own.

New Fantasyland opened Dec 2012. 7DMT opened May of 2014. So if you took your vacation every may you saw something new in 2013 and 2014. You want to be critical about delays, go ahead. But it was something new in the park that year.

My only point is that WDW has, more often than not over the last 20 years, added something to the parks. You can spin your wheels arguing if it was an upgrade or downgrade, but it won't be with me.

Emotions?

It was hyperbole but I can use words that don't suggest basic emotion, too.

How about instead of sad, pretty disingenuous to call them dusting off Main Street Electrical Parade (which premiered at DL in 1972 and WDW in 1977) something new?

How about, a hard stretch to call the Art of Animation and the Grand Destino Tower additions to the parks?

If calling out a list that includes things like that and that tries to pass off magic bands or resort travel as added attractions to the parks is spinning my wheels in your mind, I don't know what to tell you. You responded directly to me with your questionable list which is why I'm responding back to you.

Again, I misspoke and you clearly pointed out that there wasn't literally nothing done as I've conceded but including Disney Springs as an addition to the parks is well... that's also somethin'.

Is that better or should I have just kept it at "sad"?

Look, it's really hard to take seriously, the arguments of a person who wants to include that sort of stuff which seems to be in cynical bad faith and consider that person to not be writing with "intention" (and you seem too intelligent to have included stuff like that by accident) just like I guess it's hard for you to take me seriously.

Again (for the third time), we can agree to disagree or we can keep going if you really want.

 

[JackCH]

Emotions?

Okay how about instead of sad, pretty pathetic to call Main Street Electrical Parade something new?

How about, a hard stretch to call the Art of Animation and the Grand Destino Tower additions to the parks?

If calling a list that includes things like that and that tries to pass off magic bands or resort travel as added attractions to the parks is spinning my wheels in your mind, I don't know what to tell you.

Again, I misspoke and you clearly pointed out that there wasn't literally nothing done as I've conceded but including Disney Springs as an addition to the parks is well... that's also somethin'.

Is that better or should I have just kept it at "sad"?

Again, we can agree to disagree or we can keep going if you really want.

Yikes lol. Really took it to a 10 there.

 

[MrPromey]

Yikes lol. Really took it to a 10 there.

Well, I tried twice with "agree to disagree". I also conceded that my statement wasn't literally correct and that was apparently too subtle for them... so here we are.

 

[JackCH]

Well, I tried twice with "agree to disagree" and that was apparently too subtle for them... so?

All good haha. It's funny in a good way how passionate we all get about the parks. Definitely matches your profile pic!

 

[BrianLo]

To anyone projecting opening dates - an entirely new management team that will be desperate to please Wall Street takes over Disney in 2026

FYI, the End of 2026 is Iger’s actual exit. I highly anticipate this is all under construction by then. But yes, anything that isn’t seems fair game to have basically been cancelled by the current leadership by that juncture.

Constantly harping that it’s all going to be cancelled is a straw man and becoming a tired talking point. Maybe it will be? But it currently isn’t.

 

[MrPromey]

FYI, the End of 2026 is Iger’s actual exit. I highly anticipate this is all under construction by then. But yes, anything that isn’t seems fair game to have basically been cancelled by the current leadership by that juncture.

Constantly harping that it’s all going to be cancelled is a straw man and becoming a tired talking point. Maybe it will be? But it currently isn’t.

There have got to be people in leadership that still remember the lukewarm response to their original potter-swatter* so hopefully, they'll do what they did when Universal came to town and what they did when IOA opened which is say they see no threat but then actually build like they do.

... and not take as long to get to at least some of it as they did with Pandora.

Paying guests will win if it plays out that way, again, even if the result isn't a new gate.**

*I think Universal caught almost everyone by surprise with that one.
**Even if Disney's MGM Studios should have opened in a place that wasn't "land-locked" and stronger than it did.