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Miscellaneous Tokyo Thoughts
- Thread starter Animaniac93-98
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Possible? Of course
But OLC rejecting the proposal to fill it in for Cars Land gives me hope.
ThemeParkTraveller
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I don't think Rivers of America is 100% safe at TDL, but it looks like OLC should be able to get through the next decade using other expansion pads for now. Worst case, I hope they just shorten it rather than remove it completely.
Robbiem
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I wonder if that leaves the opportunity open for a Singapore sentosa style resort with a smaller theme park and gambling resort combo
Loose Pebble
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This is really interesting! Gives some cool ideas for where a third park could go, if they choose to do one. I'm curious if Urayasu sports park would fall under "far-fetched" as well since it's even closer than Chidori.
ThemeParkTraveller
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If they can open up that space, that's enough for two new lands. Could potentially do one for each park.
BasiltheBatLord
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There's a trending article in Yahoo! News Japan about the decrease in young people going to TDR. A lot of it mirrors the discussions going on about declining attendance and price increases at the American parks.
The article notes that attendance among 18-39 year olds is down nearly 10% since pre-pandemic, and that attendance of guests 40+ years old is steadily increasing.
The article attributes the change in guest demographics mostly to higher ticket prices, but also the abolishment of the annual pass system and the decrease in entertainment offerings. It also notes that OLC is making record profit amid higher guest spending, even though attendance is lower than pre-pandemic.
news.yahoo.co.jp
The article notes that attendance among 18-39 year olds is down nearly 10% since pre-pandemic, and that attendance of guests 40+ years old is steadily increasing.
The article attributes the change in guest demographics mostly to higher ticket prices, but also the abolishment of the annual pass system and the decrease in entertainment offerings. It also notes that OLC is making record profit amid higher guest spending, even though attendance is lower than pre-pandemic.
若者のディズニー離れが進む 10～30代の利用者は約10％減 TDR知識王が語る分岐点「大人料金が1万円を超えた時」（ピンズバNEWS） - Yahoo!ニュース
東京ディズニーリゾート（TDR）を訪れる18歳～39歳の割合が減っている。 1983年4月15日に東京ディズニーランド、2001年9月4日に東京ディズニーシーがオープンしたTDR。コロナ禍が明
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From Joe Schott, President and GM at Shanghai Disney Resort:
Something magical happened during the recent typhoon in Shanghai – the high winds which battered Shanghai Disney Resort dislodged one of our recycling bins and it has magically come to life in Tomorrowland!
It’s my pleasure to introduce Xiaotui, or “Little Push”, a curious and conscientious recycle bin that loves to "eat" recyclables and "talk trash" with guests. Xiaotui is already making friends everywhere it goes, sharing tips on how to be a star guest and take full advantage of the park's waste sorting and recycling services.
Being a force for good in our community is among our top priorities, and Xiaotui is a great example of how we use creative storytelling to show how fun it can be to take care of the environments where we play and live. Keep an eye out for Xiaotui during your next visit!
Something magical happened during the recent typhoon in Shanghai – the high winds which battered Shanghai Disney Resort dislodged one of our recycling bins and it has magically come to life in Tomorrowland!
It’s my pleasure to introduce Xiaotui, or “Little Push”, a curious and conscientious recycle bin that loves to "eat" recyclables and "talk trash" with guests. Xiaotui is already making friends everywhere it goes, sharing tips on how to be a star guest and take full advantage of the park's waste sorting and recycling services.
Being a force for good in our community is among our top priorities, and Xiaotui is a great example of how we use creative storytelling to show how fun it can be to take care of the environments where we play and live. Keep an eye out for Xiaotui during your next visit!
Kevin_W
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BasiltheBatLord
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Sinbad is back after its 7-month refurb.
BasiltheBatLord
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Forbes article breaking down OLC's finances.
It mentions that OLC appears unlikely to meet their 2024 attendance forecast, despite the opening of Fantasy Springs, and that OLC's capitalization has decreased by $22.3 billion this year.
www.forbes.com
It mentions that OLC appears unlikely to meet their 2024 attendance forecast, despite the opening of Fantasy Springs, and that OLC's capitalization has decreased by $22.3 billion this year.
The Disney Resort Operator That’s Worth Less Now Than It Was Two Years Ago
When theme park operators spend billions on an expansion they don't expect the value of their company to plummet after it opens. But that has happened at one Disney resort.
www.forbes.com
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Their convoluted measures to control crowds and extract money from anticipated demand likely hurt them. Plus Fantasy Springs wasn't even open for half the year.
Universal should pay attention.
SweetDuffy101
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You know whats worst in Universal Japan.
Jaws, Spiderman , Jurassic park, Terminator are all closed at the same time, Plus lackluster lineup of entertainment, Attractions breaking down especially Flying dino and mario kart.
Special evemts doesnt really increase capacity and theres no regular big entertainment in the park.
and to top it off overcrowding is a regular occurrence after Covid ended and merch scalpers started appearing.
DarkMetroid567
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I could afford Fantasy Springs Hotel this year. If I couldn’t, I wouldn’t have bothered going.
hopemax
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Just got back from a week in Japan. Our arrival night we stayed at the Hilton Tokyo Bay, then a 2-night package at Fantasy Springs, followed by 5 nights at the Tokyo Disneyland Hotel. We had a total of 3 days at each park, plus a day we went into Tokyo (Shinjuku Disney Store, Nakano Broadway, Nihonbashi Bridge / a couple stores in Tokyo Station).
More thoughts later but:
More thoughts later but:
- Fantasy Springs is amazing.
- Visiting 2 days post holiday was worse than a Saturday. The food / line situation was a real issue these days.
- The app sucks.
- Far, far, far more Westerners visiting than our 2018 trip where we say only like 5 groups in a week. We hit that basically just getting to and into the park on the first day.
- I still absolutely adore DisneySea
- TDR demonstrates how completely awful WDW ops are these days.
hopemax
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Looking back at a few pages...oh this is totally not the case now. Ridiculously, more crowded during our week. Especially anything with a Halloween food or beverage had long, long lines. TDS was mostly manageable, but busy. Disneyland was rough. Thank goodness for the package priority access tickets, the free 40th passes and having been there before. When we went for Christmas 2018, we could find a front row parade spot about 80 minutes before. The number of people who entered, and immediately set up camp was most of the parade route. We ended up lining up for Harmony in Color almost 2 hours in advance, for a back row spot in front of CBJ theater, and buying Premiere access for the Halloween parade and Dreamlights.
BasiltheBatLord
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Having lived in Japan for five years, the amount of foreign tourists is absolutely bonkers now. Every where you go in Tokyo they are everywhere. Every neighborhood, every train, every restaurant. Just packed to the gills everywhere you look.