MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[AidenRodriguez731]

To me the problem isn't specifically IPs, it's the way they are being used. It feels like Imagineering is being given the hotest IPs, being told which parts of the park are underperforming and being told to just make it work. Look at the descriptions of Encanto and Indy for AK. It's clear that they are forcing an animal element into them to make them "fit" into the park instead of doing something that is a more natural fit for the park, even using other IPs. These sorts of decision seem to tie the hands of the Imagineering and it makes it difficult to do the very careful, well thought out design work that made Disney what it is today.

I really don't see that honestly. A mythical creature in a temple? That definitely fits. That's like saying Disney wanted to "Do a generic mountain coaster in WDW and forced the Yeti in to fit in the park instead of just putting it in MK where it would belong"

 

[DCLcruiser]

You said “it’s not going to be seen by a lot of guests”.

Not in comparison to the "center;" Castle or Main St. I will also argue that the vast majority of guests are focused on Fantasyland, Tomorrowland and Adventureland. Then if you want to venture wayyyyy to the back, you get the LS and FL. I could be very wrong, but I think the demographic of MK skews towards Fantasyland above all else.

 

[the_rich]

Four rides? Where was this confirmed?

2 in cars and 2 for villains

 

[Brian]

Just so we're al clear: if the leadership at Disney is willing to do this, they are willing to do much, much more.

At risk of sounding ultra-dramatic, it truly is over. And I don't mean that these parks can't be enjoyed by families (they will be). Nor do I mean that every historic aspect of these parks will be gone overnight.

What I mean is that today's dopamine addicted society has convinced Disney that the historic values and ideas that were the bedrock of these parks are no longer important or valuable. I don't know how long it will be but one day, every last facet of these ideas will be gone and Walt Disney World will be indistinguishable from Universal Orlando. My guess is about 20 years left before it's all gone.

Well said. Sadly, the pixie dusters and other apologists will simply wave away our concerns with the usual "Walt said we keep moving forward" or other such nonsense, as if Walt would be in favor of the dumbing down of his vision.

 

[danlb_2000]

I really don't see that honestly. A mythical creature in a temple? That definitely fits. That's like saying Disney wanted to "Do a generic mountain coaster in WDW and forced the Yeti in to fit in the park instead of just putting it in MK where it would belong"

My point is, they had to add the mythical creature part to make it fit, whereas something like Lion King or Jungle Book would naturally fit the theme without have to add anything.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

There making more lagoons and water features, moping up what Disney has abandoned and I think it’s a great move.

I HATE Universals lagoons. Makes it a pain to walk around Universal/get to where you're going since its so ride heavy. I WISH they would fill in the main parks one because that park could use it ngl

 

[lazyboy97o]

My understanding was the other option was Cars goes where Beyond Big Thunder will eventually be. So we'd keep Rivers of America, get Villains, and get Cars. And that would be it for MK under the current land development paperwork. (I could be wrong.)

This seems to ignore other previously identified sites such as the Fire Mountain site.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

My point is, they had to add the mythical creature part to make it fit, whereas something like Lion King or Jungle Book would naturally fit the theme without have to add anything.

Would Expedition Everest fit with a generic mountain coaster?

 

[DCLcruiser]

As a Brit, I find this a very strange sentiment. You guys realise that many of our theme parks over in Northern Europe already have log flumes, right?

You have other theme parks besides Disney?

 

[danlb_2000]

Would Expedition Everest fit with a generic mountain coaster?

I think that works because it's part of the natural world of Asia. The Imagineers had the freedom to come up with something that complimented that part of the park without have to be tied to an existing IP.

 

[SoFloMagic]

They just opened a new office 20 minutes from MK

I'm starting to think you weren't guessing

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

They need it all for the four rides they’ll build. If they kept some river, we’d claim the Cars E-ticket was too short.

The Cars ride looks like it will only be a couple minutes long at most, so that claim is going to be a thing regardless.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Also, do we know with certainty that there are two rides at Villains? It said two major attractions, but that doesn't mean both are rides. The other one could be some sort of stage or theater show.

 

[ToTBellHop]

The Cars ride looks like it will only be a couple minutes long at most, so that claim is going to be a thing regardless.

They need every 30 sec they can get!

I think if TRON was 30 sec longer, you wouldn’t have EVERYONE saying it’s way too short. It’s the #1 complaint.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Also, do we know with certainty that there are two rides at Villains? It said two major attractions, but that doesn't mean both are rides. The other one could be some sort of stage or theater show.

They called a restaurant baking bread an "attraction" when DCA opened.

 

[erasure fan1]

What makes you think it won't?

To be fair, it's not all that relevant now. The last movie did less than stellar. Cars 2 is generally looked at as one of the worst Pixar movie. Outside of 4 to 7yr old boys, it's not all that popular. It just sells A LOT of merch to that demo. I'm guessing that's there play with this.

That said, a classic attraction can come from any ip or no ip at all. Radiator springs racer is a fantastic ride in a really well done land. Heck, splash mountain should have shown everyone that. If the ride is awesome and revolutionary, people will have this same conversation when it's time to rip it out in 15/20yrs to make room for something more modern. There's a lot of ips that are more deserving of a major ride in magic kingdom. So I don't think it's necessarily cars, it's the placement and park that's the hang-up for many.

 

[Wall-e]

The Cars ride looks like it will only be a couple minutes long at most, so that claim is going to be a thing regardless.

The concept art shows it wrapping around the entire area with some figure 8’s, twists, up and down hill areas and at least one indoor component (possibly two with the load/unload area). You’ll likely have fast points and slower scenic points of the ride. Test track was almost 5 minutes and RSR is about 4 minutes so I’d put this around 4-4.5 minutes since it likely won’t have the high speed section that TT and RSR has.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

So, 24 hours later, how're we all feeling about this? Any hope that Disney will adjust plans to address the concerns people have (losing the water and natural views, parking the riverboat instead of losing it, etc)?

 

[el_super]

We could have had Moana, Cars, Villains and kept ROA.

No. Not at all. ROA isn't being removed because of a land use/planning decision. It's being removed because of 30+ years of erroding support for the story and theme. It's being removed because of dwindling attendance numbers. It's being removed because of high ratio between maintenance/turnstile clicks.

You can't undo 30+ years of cultural progress.

 

[ToTBellHop]

So, 24 hours later, how're we all feeling about this? Any hope that Disney will adjust plans to address the concerns people have (losing the water and natural views, parking the riverboat instead of losing it, etc)?

No chance. We have spent decades not caring enough to ride the riverboat or visit TSI. Now is too late to care. Ship has sailed.

It costs a fortune to keep maintaining the riverboat (relative to its ridership).

Visit both before the end of this year if you really like them!