Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[LittleBuford]

That's when you turn to them and explain exactly what the joke means.

That’s an easy out (“They wouldn’t get the joke anyway”), but depictions of sex and violence certainly wouldn’t go over their heads.

 

[LittleBuford]

Can’t really get into this because it’s political but both sides are guilty of this, just depends on the issue. In many cases the right champion parental rights and the left try to take them away, in many cases the left champion parental rights and the right try to take them away, there’s very little black and white in American politics, both parties frequently flip flop to mirror their ideologies.

This is true.

I’d like to think I’m consistently mistrustful of parents.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don't think that children who are advanced academically have commensurate advancements in emotional maturity. I don't think those "parts" of the brain are really connected.

Society makes rules for others all the time based on what it collectively thinks is best. Alcohol and smoking restrictions, prostitution, and drugs are examples that immediately come to mind. In the US, that hasn't extended to hard age-restrictions on movies. An individual's judgment of those decisions isn't connected to the laws though. "It may be legal for you to do this, but I think you shouldn't do it." Or maybe someone thinks we should pass a law against it. Fair enough. We have a process for that too.

Those examples you gave have laws attached to them, this is not the case with movie viewing thankfully. But if there was a law preventing it in the US, I would obey it. But until then its up to parental discretion here in the US on taking their kids to R rated movies.

 

[Disney Analyst]

This is why I try and go to the VIP Cineplex. 19+

 

[LittleBuford]

This is why I try and go to the VIP Cineplex. 19+

Too lazy to Google, but what’s the Canadian system like?

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

That’s an easy out (“They wouldn’t get the joke anyway”), but depictions of sex and violence certainly wouldn’t go over their heads.

My comment was more tongue in cheek, but such a hypothetical might demonstrate why parents should research a movie's content and make an informed decision. The kid might ask their friends what it means and the parent might not want to be having that conversation.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This is true.

I’d like to think I’m consistently mistrustful of parents.

As long as you’re consistent I respect that, I like to think I’m consistant also in supporting parental rights.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Too lazy to Google, but what’s the Canadian system like?

Mostly the same.

PG and 14A instead of PG-13, and R and 18A.

R is for content "not suitable for minors". 18A is more like PG-18, suggesting parents review and/or watch such content with their children.

https://www.mpa-canada.org/film-ratings/

 

[LittleBuford]

Mostly the same.

PG and 14A instead of PG-13, and R and 18A.

R is for content "not suitable for minors". 18A is more like PG-18, suggesting parents review and/or watch such content with their children.

https://www.mpa-canada.org/film-ratings/

I was curious to see what rating Evil Dead Rise received and just looked it up. As with the US, children were allowed to view it in cinemas when accompanied by adults. Quebec has a different system much closer to what I grew up: there, you had to be at least sixteen to watch it. Needless to say, the latter system seems much more sensible to me.

 

[LittleBuford]

My comment was more tongue in cheek, but such a hypothetical might demonstrate why parents should research a movie's content and make an informed decision. The kid might ask their friends what it means and the parent might not want to be having that conversation.

I apologise for misunderstanding what you meant.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Those examples you gave have laws attached to them, this is not the case with movie viewing thankfully. But if there was a law preventing it in the US, I would obey it. But until then its up to parental discretion here in the US on taking their kids to R rated movies.

Yes, that’s what I said lol

But that part of my comment was intended to speak to the larger discussion, not a response or “rebuttal” to anything you’d said.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I apologise for misunderstanding what you meant.

Not necessary.

The notion that kids 'wouldn’t get the joke anyway' is interesting because I'd apply it differently to a kids movie versus an adult movie.

Lots of kids shows throw in a reference or double entendre for the adults, but the show overall is age appropriate. The kid never needs to know what they missed.

Different from an R movie where the jokes are in your face and expected to be understood.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yes, that’s what I said lol

But that part of my comment was intended to speak to the larger discussion, not a response or “rebuttal” to anything you’d said.

Except it is a rebuttal, as you proved my point. We have plenty of laws on things kids are not allowed to partake in here in the US. However its not against the law in the US for a parent to take a child to a R rated movie. If that changes and it becomes against the law, well that is a different discussion. Until then its a parents discretion on whether they want to bring their child to an R rated movie, and not really the business of others. Sure people will have opinions, but its not really their right or even place to say anything about it, as its not their kid.

 

[LittleBuford]

Until then its a parents discretion on whether they want to bring their child to an R rated movie, and not really the business of others. Sure people will have opinions, but its not really their right or even place to say anything about it, as its not their kid.

Do you mean specifically when faced with the situation (in which case I agree with you), or in general?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Where are all the people who mocked the idea of Disney+ turning a profit?

This is actually ahead of schedule by one quarter.

Now serving: crow.

Disney's streaming business turns a profit. But parks show signs of trouble

Disney notched a milestone in its streaming business: It reported profitability across its Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+ services for the first time.

www.latimes.com

 

[erasure fan1]

it’s normally right-leaning people who argue that parents should have the last say and left-leaning people who argue the opposite.

I've always found the left to be the choice group. And the right was more the "family values" group.

Again, parents did ill advised stuff back then. But I'm not sure you'd see a news story on it in modern times. At least I haven't seen one. I remember Alien and plenty of other R rated films from the 80s and 90s where kids were brought. The overall consensus was, not appropriate for a 5, 6 or 7yr old. Maybe it's just the area I was in. But, as seen in this thread, it's no big deal and totally normal.

And what if my 6 yr old for example is more mature then the average 6 year old? For example what if my 6 yr old is not in K/1st but actually already in an higher grade because they are advanced and gifted? Is that appropriate because they are far beyond their physical age?

Ok, I know we don't see eye to eye on a lot of things. But you don't actually believe that right? Just because a kid might be able to do algebra at 6, doesn't mean their brains are in any way fully developed. Plus that's a extremely miniscule percentage of 6yr olds. I'd have to go back and check, but the brain doesn't fully mature until like 18-25yrs old. So I really don't care how much math a 6yr old can do, or how well they can read. It in no way means they are mature enough for something like Deadpool.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Except it is a rebuttal, as you proved my point. We have plenty of laws on things kids are not allowed to partake in here in the US. However its not against the law in the US for a parent to take a child to a R rated movie. If that changes and it becomes against the law, well that is a different discussion. Until then its a parents discretion on whether they want to bring their child to an R rated movie, and not really the business of others. Sure people will have opinions, but its not really their right or even place to say anything about it, as its not their kid.

I really don't understand. I replied to your post about kids maturity, but the rest of my comment had nothing to do with your post. I wasn't rebutting anything; I just didn't feel like making two posts. For clarity, I've edited my previous post to remove the comment about kids' maturity and any reference to your previous comment.

 

[Disney Irish]

I really don't understand. I replied to your post about kids maturity, but the rest of my comment had nothing to do with your post. I wasn't rebutting anything; I just didn't feel like making two posts. For clarity, I've edited my previous post to remove the comment about kids' maturity and any reference to your previous comment.

I ignored the other part of your post as I didn't feel like debating it, as we see differently on maturity level. But I did comment on the rest as it really proves my point. The US is made of laws on what we as a society has deemed acceptable not and acceptable, especially when it comes to kids. And until otherwise noted while there maybe some that disagree with it, in this country there is no law against a parent bring their kid to an R rated movie. And its not up to others to tell any parent in this situation what they can or cannot do with their child.

 

[Disney Irish]

Ok, I know we don't see eye to eye on a lot of things. But you don't actually believe that right? Just because a kid might be able to do algebra at 6, doesn't mean their brains are in any way fully developed. Plus that's a extremely miniscule percentage of 6yr olds. I'd have to go back and check, but the brain doesn't fully mature until like 18-25yrs old. So I really don't care how much math a 6yr old can do, or how well they can read. It in no way means they are mature enough for something like Deadpool.

If I didn't believe it I won't be posting it. Its not up to you to tell me whether my kid is not advanced enough to handle a movie, that is my job as a parent.

 

[DKampy]

Honestly, the last few pages of this thread seem almost upside down to me. In my experience, it’s normally right-leaning people who argue that parents should have the last say and left-leaning people who argue the opposite. The former viewpoint does not seem newfangled to me.

I am of the belief no one should care what their neighbors are doing…. As long as they are not hurting anyone and they are happy it should not matter… even if I don’t agree with them