MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I understand the reasoning for people hating on Song of the South because of some of its writing. It also kind of saddens me that at the same time people hate on it they are literally erasing the legacy of the actor that play Remus. Movies in that era had lots of issues when it came to race but in my opinion deleting them completely from history is not the right choice. When it comes to Song of the South people either forget or do not realize that it was the first time in history that an African America actor, the brilliant James Baskett was the first African American actor to be recognised for his work and given an Honorary Oscar. by basically deleting from history Disney and those against the movie have at the same time erased his accomplishment.

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Couldn’t agree more. A bold company doesn’t deny history…they use it as a learning tool. You don’t treat your audience like innocent fools…you make them think.

All companies have begun to mine the past for current grievances…to their economic detriment…Disney is becoming the poster child of how to really fail at this.

It’s either they can no long read their own data?…or they’re tired of caring about it?

 

[Communicora]

As DisTwitter has been saying today: AAs don’t make up for lack of story.

And all they have the Tiana AAs do is gesticulate and greet us. Why waste all of that budget and technology on that? Surely they could have figured out something for her to do other than just standing there waiting for us to ride by.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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To paraphrase Lloyd Benson responding to Dan Quayle in a Vice Presidential debate all those years ago: Sir, I knew Splash Mountain, Splash Mountain was a friend of mine. Sir, you are no Splash Mountain.

Still maybe the greatest debate line ever

 

[Joel]

It's funny how every story idea that's been tossed around here, going all the way back to when this was first announced, is better than what we ended up with. Reminds me of that William F. Buckley quote: "I would rather the parks be governed by the first 2,000 people in the WDWMAGIC user directory than by..." or however it goes.

 

[Surferboy567]

Daytime POV

 

[LindseyDisney]

I'm avoiding visual spoilers until my September trip. But with that said, knowing the story, I am disappointed Disney didn't do a retelling of Princess and the Frog—something similar to Frozen.

Or! Imagine the Shadow Man, a formidable villain, returning from the Shadow realm with a vengeance. He's determined to disrupt the joyous party of the Princess and the Frog crew and scare her new friends (us).

Alternatively, consider relocating the Princess and the Frog Ride from the Magic Kingdom to Epcot, adjacent to The Land Ride. This could be a fantastic opportunity to tie the Princess and the Frog ride with The Land, aligning with Disney's goal of incorporating more IP into Epcot and introducing a new attraction. This could be a dark boat ride, but keep it to the same story.

But not having the Shadow Man and Prince Naveen missing (Is this true? Naveen is missing?) Seems like a wasted, wasted opportunity for Disney.

This doesn't relate. But I was born in 1991 and have been visiting Disney since the 1990s. Only in 2015 or 2016 did I realize Splash Mountain was based on a Disney movie. I thought it was an original. I feel dumb.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's funny how every story idea that's been tossed around here, going all the way back to when this was first announced, is better than what we ended up with. Reminds me of that William F. Buckley quote: "I would rather the parks be governed by the first 2,000 people in the WDWMAGIC user directory than by..." or however it goes.

TWDC not listening to their fans is the biggest reason for all the struggles they’re having

They don’t want to believe it…and that…is why they’re failing

 

[mf1972]

Imagineering taking a well deserved victory lap.

this made me think about how i always hoped they would give carousel of progress some tlc, but after watching this, now i hope they leave it alone.

 

[FettFan]

But not having the Shadow Man and Prince Naveen missing (Is this true? Naveen is missing?) Seems like a wasted, wasted opportunity for Disney.

I’m sure they have him in the finale scene somewhere. Even the much-ballyhooed Ralphie The Drummer animatronic is kind of blink-and-you-miss-him.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

But not having the Shadow Man and Prince Naveen missing (Is this true? Naveen is missing?) Seems like a wasted, wasted opportunity for Disney.

Naveen is only in the finale, he is otherwise entirely absent from the ride. At least WDW's version.

He was present in a piece of art for the version at Disneyland, a unique scene with him and Tiana (with her holding a lantern) in a boat. This was not built at WDW however. It remains to be seen whether Disneyland will have any significant differences in their version of the ride. A while back, it was stated by Splash Mountain Archives (who has been a very reputable source of info for this project) that this piece of art would be located in the former Laughing Place flooded cavern at Disneyland. Reason being that there was already an existing boat prop there occupied by a figure of a dog, so they wanted to reuse the boat for a new scene.

However, i'm unsure whether this is still the plan currently. WDW's version did something extremely different with this entire underground area. Choosing to have guests shrunken down to the size of small critters and have gigantic scenery, frogs and fireflies. If they replicate this same scene at Disneyland, then it would not make any sense for this scene with Tiana and Naveen to be down there anymore.

 

[Clamman73]

In Splash, you get that "uh-oh" feeling going up the lift hill, with this it seems like you get an "oh ok" feeling.

 

[Starship824]

Although I don't have the same distain for this ride that a lot of people on here have I will admit the ride has significant glaring problems. What do we think the chances are that if guests don't like this they go in and try to fix it by say adding in more AAs to fix the deadspace and screens and adding in some sort of danger before the drop. The problems with this ride in it's current form are very easy to fix. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen Disney change something because of intense backlash, just in the last couple years we saw them add the Walt intro to Enchantment half way through it's run to try to salvage it. I mean it didn't work but at least they tried.

 

[davis_unoxx]

“We’re almost there”

Honestly I’m glad this ride is getting the bashing it deserved, people that said this wouldn’t live to Splash were called horrible things for years, said we only had issues with the new ride because it was about Tiana…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Although I don't have the same distain for this ride that a lot of people on here have I will admit the ride has significant glaring problems. What do we think the chances are that if guests don't like this they go in and try to fix it by say adding in more AAs to fix the deadspace and screens and adding in some sort of danger before the drop. The problems with this ride in it's current form are very easy to fix. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen Disney change something because of intense backlash, just in the last couple years we saw them add the Walt intro to Enchantment half way through it's run to try to salvage it. I mean it didn't work but at least they tried.

…about the same chance they fix imagination after Eisner had the ride stopped and stormed off in 1999…

…so “not looking good”

 

[drizgirl]

Can't say I feel bad for the imaginears involved.
They had one job as the saying goes.
The source material was there in the film.
Watching PatF, so much of it lends itself perfectly to this ride layout.
But no...
The people who made this ride "knew better than that.
They abandoned virtually everything that made that film work, and came up with their own employee Owned, food conglomerate, assemble the band, but you're the secret spice mumbo jumbo, but just kept a couple of the characters from the film.

Nailed it.

 

[shambolicdefending]

Although I don't have the same distain for this ride that a lot of people on here have I will admit the ride has significant glaring problems. What do we think the chances are that if guests don't like this they go in and try to fix it by say adding in more AAs to fix the deadspace and screens and adding in some sort of danger before the drop. The problems with this ride in it's current form are very easy to fix. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen Disney change something because of intense backlash, just in the last couple years we saw them add the Walt intro to Enchantment half way through it's run to try to salvage it. I mean it didn't work but at least they tried.

IMO, the recent pattern at Disney seems to be blaming the consumers for not liking their "magical" products enough.

Especially since the old version of this attraction was viewed as "troublesome," it won't be hard for them to promote the narrative that the ride is perfectly fine and it's just the old, irrelevant, unmodernized crowd trying to poison the well.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This.
Josh D'Amaro should have held Iger and/or whomever is CFO responsible for actions occurring within parks and resorts. And if anything, I'd expect improvements to TBA on the West Coast, and maybe some upgrades on the East Coast if (and when) there's enough negative feedback regarding it. It's not a matter of "will they do any improvements" but rather seems probable.

D’Amaro is a puppet…a tool

Every P&R head is. It’s been decades of this.

Not his fault…it’s the design of the job. P&R head is high profile and meant to run interference for the most dedicated fans as the egomaniac in the C-suite with all the budget say does what he wants. Same as it has been since the pressler days.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

IMO, the recent pattern at Disney seems to be blaming the consumers for not liking their "magical" products enough.

Especially since the old version of this attraction was viewed as "troublesome," it won't be hard for them to promote the narrative that the ride is perfectly fine and it's just the old, irrelevant, unmodernized crowd trying to poison the well.

And that’s working so well their products are being rejected in a good economy over the last year to a level NEVER seen in corporate history

“Pay no attention to the fire behind the curtain”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This had spoilers, deleted the post.

Not sure anyone is gonna care

 

[gerarar]

It wouldn't be the first time we've seen Disney change something because of intense backlash, just in the last couple years we saw them add the Walt intro to Enchantment half way through it's run to try to salvage it. I mean it didn't work but at least they tried.

Disney adding Walt and more to Disney Enchantment wasn't a move to salvage and save it. It was already decided at that point that it was going to be replaced with HEA.

The new intro was added in August 2022 and less than a month later it was announced at D23 in September that HEA would be returning. We also know that Live Entertainment had about a month to add that new intro (quote from one of the people that work on the projections) and rework the pyro.

It was just done to simply appease fans and do something meaningful for the 50th (or whatever remained of the "celebration"). I would say it did work even though nothing at that point would save DE from being replaced. They didn't have to, but they did so anyways.