MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[monothingie]

View attachment 788879“Everybody’s got a laughing place”

Ouch the ratio.

 

[SuddenStorm]

What do we think the motivation was for debuting a ride through today before the attraction officially opened?

With Rise, Disney kept things locked down. As far as I know, Disney has never released a ride through film to the masses before the attraction opened, but I could be wrong.

 

[Ayla]

Hey, why the heck are there no giant fireflies in the shrinking section? You know, the most visually unique and amusing designs in the franchise, linked to one of the most memorable characters?

There are, on the screens...IIRC.

 

[monothingie]

To the people saying this will have a long line showing this is a successful ride, you’re not thinking big picture.

Disney has turned off a lot of guests the last few years, from getting too involved into politics, upping the prices too much, decrease in quality.

Changing Splash Mountain to a vocal minority is a turn off to the average guest from the South or the average Family that visits Disney, it’s that simple.

This alone hasn’t turned off people from visiting Disney, but this and other decisions has made people take their money elsewhere.

Also you can’t use the excuse people are afraid to travel to Florida, that’s why Disney less busy. Florida keeps beating their tourism records from years past, if Disney had same percentage of guests visiting Florida as 5 years ago their occupancy rates for hotels would be 95%, not 25% below that rate…

It’s management that doesn’t want to understand or cater to their guests but would rather treat them as a consumer of “product” and tell them what they should like and do.

Disney may still have some talent left in it (or they could buy some) and the cast members are from the most part pure gold. But when you have leadership in Burbank that looks down and ridicules the people that essentially pay their salaries and make the company 1/3+ of its profit, you have a inescapable and pervasive rot destroying what’s left.

 

[Mikomike12]

There are, on the screens...IIRC.

They are all behind the giant leaves too

 

[gerarar]

What do we think the motivation was for debuting a ride through today before the attraction officially opened?

With Rise, Disney kept things locked down. As far as I know, Disney has never released a ride through film to the masses before the attraction opened, but I could be wrong.

Keeping ROTR a secret 'til pretty much media previews was a very genius tactic. As soon the first POV dropped (BlogMickey was one of the first iirc), I was amazed at how everything worked and wanted to experience it ASAP (in fact got to experience it that Christmas holiday, making everything worth it).

So it's very interesting at the approach Disney took here. I'm also pretty sure Disney released a Tron POV before the opening of the ride, but considering it's a clone of an attraction we could already watch online, didn't matter much then. Here, it's a completely new attraction (a retheme albeit), but even so...just strange all around.

 

[JohnD]

I have to echo what everyone else has said. All along I said, let's not criticize it until we've seen it. Now we've seen it and some are saying, "Well. It's the the way the video was shot" or "I guess we'll have to wait until we actually ride it." When we have to put ourselves into contortions hoping that the ride ride will be good in the end, it doesn't bode well for actual reception of it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

To the people saying this will have a long line showing this is a successful ride, you’re not thinking big picture.

Disney has turned off a lot of guests the last few years, from getting too involved into politics, upping the prices too much, decrease in quality.

Changing Splash Mountain to a vocal minority is a turn off to the average guest from the South or the average Family that visits Disney, it’s that simple.

This alone hasn’t turned off people from visiting Disney, but this and other decisions has made people take their money elsewhere.

Also you can’t use the excuse people are afraid to travel to Florida, that’s why Disney less busy. Florida keeps beating their tourism records from years past, if Disney had same percentage of guests visiting Florida as 5 years ago their occupancy rates for hotels would be 95%, not 25% below that rate…

Long lines are 100% due to not having enough capacity in wdw for 20 years.

That is the reason. The only reason.

If this ride is good. It’s worth it. If it is not good…even with a line…it is not.

The last thing TWDC needs when they’re losing business is the comment “I paid/waited in a long line and it sucked”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I have to echo what everyone else has said. All along I said, let's not criticize it until we've seen it. Now we've seen it and some are saying, "Well. It's the the way the video was shot" or "I guess we'll have to wait until we actually ride it." When we have to put ourselves into contortions hoping that the ride ride will be good in the end, it doesn't bode well for actual reception of it.

Nobody had to do this in 1992…it is what it is

 

[tathompson87]

Another person on a disney park fan forum site wondering why disney park fans are passionate about something they care about. Crazy concept, my dude, I know.

Trust me my dude, I’m not wondering. I was well aware of what I was signing up for when I created my account 16 years ago. I was just posting MY opinion on the site, which is kind of the idea, no?

 

[Trauma]

View attachment 788879“Everybody’s got a laughing place”

I wonder how long before they turn comments off.

It’s not going the way Disney wants.

Just sad.

I actually feel bad for the Imagineers involved in this project. I think it was doomed from the start.

I’m sure the blame will be passed around and
no one will be held responsible, ensuring more failures like this in the future.

 

[peter11435]

Nobody had to do this in 1992…it is what it is

Nobody saw a video of the entire ride before they actually rode the attraction in 1992.

 

[JohnD]

I wonder how long before they turn comments off.

It’s not going the way Disney wants.

Just sad.

I actually feel bad for the Imagineers involved in this project. I think it was doomed from the start.

I’m sure the blame will be passed around and
no one will be held responsible, ensuring more failures like this in the future.

Actually. I don't feel bad for the imagineers. Rethemimg the ride doesn't negate the importance of having the retheme live up to the standards of what it replaced. It didn't.

 

[eddie104]

Disney and Iger knows good and well most people weren’t happy when this re theme was announced.

They were in over their heads trying to shoehorn this into this space they could have left alone. But alas it’s too late to change anything and the money is already spent.

I’m very mixed on the final results as I believe Tiana deserved her own stand-alone attraction not attached to something like Splash.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

He's probably going back and forth in his mind between moments of sadness, and laughter.

Now this is after the initial backlash which forced Bob to spend even more $$ to improve the original concepts….if this is what that extra $$ bought, I’d REALLY hate to see what the original would’ve been…Bob would’ve been much better off spending that money to entice Tony Baxter to put his imagineer hat back on and , at the VERY least, put HIM in charge of hiring the right creatives for the job…Disney didn’t drop the ball, the ball was never in the stadium, let alone on the field.
Bob, one question…is THIS the final legacy you want people to remember you by when you finally leave?? Oof…..

 

[Trauma]

Actually. I don't feel bad for the imagineers. Rethemimg the ride doesn't negate the importance of having the retheme live up to the standards of what it replaced. It didn't.

That depends on the circumstance I guess. If Charita was able to tell Iger that she isn’t getting involved in this without having her career sidelined, then this is on her also.

I just don’t know the inner workings.

Maybe she didn’t really have a choice?

 

[rtmachine]

I'm sure the food co op stuff will be in the q and loading area , really haven't seen those yet ..so then after work they head on out to the swamp.

 

[eddie104]

I actually feel bad for the Imagineers involved in this project. I think it was doomed from the start.

Same they were giving an impossible task with mandates set by modern Disney. Their hands were probably tied in a lot of ways we will never know.

All this hard work by the musicians is gonna go unnoticed because of the reception so far.

 

[Ice Gator]

Actually. I don't feel bad for the imagineers. Rethemimg the ride doesn't negate the importance of having the retheme live up to the standards of what it replaced. It didn't.

I agree. They couldn’t lock down a story and it’s clear they weren’t confident enough to commit to one of their concepts. When Tony Baxter left the project, I knew we were in trouble.

That was around the time the model released without the tree, and the “Louis’s trumpet/Mardi Gra celebration” was scrapped for “Employee Owned Tiana’s Foods- EVERYONE IS WELCOME”.

What we ended up getting feels like a mish mash of both storylines.

We don’t even get to see any of the new critters “personalities” they teased so heavily. I figured they would talk or at least have some clever visual gags before we see them all jamming together in the finale…but no. They’re all silent and just play their instruments the whole way through.

 

[JohnD]

That depends on the circumstance I guess. If Charita was able to tell Iger that she isn’t getting involved in this without having her career sidelined, then this is on her also.

I just don’t know the inner workings.

Maybe she didn’t really have a choice?

I suppose. I won't rehash the retheme decision. But as a ride, it needed to have exciting storytelling elements as Splash did. Watching the Baxter video earlier, he talked about slowing down the Laughin' Place music to build up the tension before going up the final hill. After watching the TBA video, it just felt flat.