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Should Disney Merge Their Animation Studios?
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CaptainAmerica
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Yes. Pixar has an Imagineering problem where they think they're rock stars and can do whatever they want. They like having access to Disney's purse strings but they don't want any oversight.
I'd shut the whole thing down.
I'd shut the whole thing down.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Yes, their movies are indistinguishable at this point anyway so there’s no need for 2 beyond name recognition. That or have Disney go back to hand drawn animation, I’d be happy with that also.
We're going to see Pixar's films be theatrical exclusives again, so bridges are being built there. Things will turn around, and people will see how it's still valuable and necessary, especially as a distinct entity.
networkpro
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- Yes
I'm with the consolidation crowd. They dont do anything unique or groundbreaking anymore and their executives are just yet another set of cloned Bob sycophants.
Disstevefan1
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Yes. Through merging, Iger can lay off more folks and save more money so he can get paid.
Phroobar
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How are they any better than one another? There was a difference when Pixar released Wall*E while Disney made Chicken Little. Now you can't tell the difference. They are both made by committee.
I didn't say they're better than one another. But that at this point, Pixar is so well-established as a distinct entity that people would not stand for it being fully subsumed the way New Line ended up being in 2008 into WB. (Alan Horn's fault there. See a pattern?) Besides, Pixar is still very much a thriving part of the studio, and that's because Emeryville has been left to run itself.
Phroobar
Well-Known Member
Fox's Blue Sky animation was a thriving until the mouse instantly killed it.
I don't think Emeryville has been allowed to run itself since they kicked John Lasseter out. The quality of the movies have taken a noise dive since then.
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Ghost93
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No. Lightyear is the only Pixar flop. They would need several poorly reviewed and financial disappointments in a row before I would even consider a merger. I'm optimistic that Pixar can pull itself back up.
I'm surprised the gut reaction of everyone is to kill Pixar rather than hope it gets revitalized. Every studio has its highs and lows. Disney Animation had crappy/financially underperforming periods in the 1940s, 1970s-80s and early-mid 2000s. Would you have rooted for the Disney animation studio shutting down in the 80s before the Disney Renaissance? Or have it completely shut down in the mid 2000s before the revival?
I'm surprised the gut reaction of everyone is to kill Pixar rather than hope it gets revitalized. Every studio has its highs and lows. Disney Animation had crappy/financially underperforming periods in the 1940s, 1970s-80s and early-mid 2000s. Would you have rooted for the Disney animation studio shutting down in the 80s before the Disney Renaissance? Or have it completely shut down in the mid 2000s before the revival?
Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
I don’t think they should kill Pixar or Disney animation, I just think they should put them under one roof and share resources so it doesn’t cost $250 million to make a movie.
Both brands would still exist, they just wouldn’t have 2 massive campuses that cost tens of millions to operate every year.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Yes.
Shut down and sell off Pixar's Emeryville campus while they still can get a decent amount for it (Emeryville and nearby East Bay communities are going into a I970's Detroit style socio-economic collapse cycle now that won't be easy or fast to recover from. It will get worse before it gets better.)
Move the best artists from Pixar down to WDAS Burbank, and put them all in the same buildings on the lot. Do layoffs for the weakest performers and any business redundancies on both the Pixar and WDAS teams. Then get that combined and streamlined team to start making animated movies for the American family demographic. Continue making two big tentpole films per year from that studio, one for summer and one for Christmas.
When an animated family film gets made that is contemporary or SciFi in nature and/or not a traditional musical (Wall-E, Toy Story, Cars, Strange World, Inside Out, etc.) brand it Disney-Pixar and market it as a "Pixar" film. Use the Pixar lamp logo in marketing.
When an animated family film gets made that is based in mythology or classic literature and/or is a traditional musical (Cinderella, The Lion King, Hercules, Frozen, Wish, etc.) brand it Walt Disney Animation and market it as a "Disney" film. Use the Castle logo in marketing.
Done. Now those two branches of animation can focus on using their bloated $200 Million film budgets to make movies that actually break even at the box office more often than not. Wouldn't that be a fun change of pace for the Sharp Pencil Boys and audiences alike?
Shut down and sell off Pixar's Emeryville campus while they still can get a decent amount for it (Emeryville and nearby East Bay communities are going into a I970's Detroit style socio-economic collapse cycle now that won't be easy or fast to recover from. It will get worse before it gets better.)
Move the best artists from Pixar down to WDAS Burbank, and put them all in the same buildings on the lot. Do layoffs for the weakest performers and any business redundancies on both the Pixar and WDAS teams. Then get that combined and streamlined team to start making animated movies for the American family demographic. Continue making two big tentpole films per year from that studio, one for summer and one for Christmas.
When an animated family film gets made that is contemporary or SciFi in nature and/or not a traditional musical (Wall-E, Toy Story, Cars, Strange World, Inside Out, etc.) brand it Disney-Pixar and market it as a "Pixar" film. Use the Pixar lamp logo in marketing.
When an animated family film gets made that is based in mythology or classic literature and/or is a traditional musical (Cinderella, The Lion King, Hercules, Frozen, Wish, etc.) brand it Walt Disney Animation and market it as a "Disney" film. Use the Castle logo in marketing.
Done. Now those two branches of animation can focus on using their bloated $200 Million film budgets to make movies that actually break even at the box office more often than not. Wouldn't that be a fun change of pace for the Sharp Pencil Boys and audiences alike?
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…I don’t understand…
They have more than 1 animation studio?!?
They have more than 1 animation studio?!?
Phroobar
Well-Known Member
Pixar used to have an uninterrupted string of hits. Lately it has been a string of flops and it doesn't look like it will stop anytime soon. These movies are making the Good Dinosaur look watchable. There is something very wrong at Disney.
Spiderman across the spider verse was made for a third of Elemental and looked incredible and had a great story. There is nothing incredible coming from Pixar in the next three movies except more bug eye, big teeth people and a retread sequel.
Just combine the two and hire exceptional writers and find a top creative to lead them. The place hasn't been the same since John Lasseter got kicked out.
Spiderman across the spider verse was made for a third of Elemental and looked incredible and had a great story. There is nothing incredible coming from Pixar in the next three movies except more bug eye, big teeth people and a retread sequel.
Just combine the two and hire exceptional writers and find a top creative to lead them. The place hasn't been the same since John Lasseter got kicked out.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I hate to agree…but you are factually correct.
The annual Pixar release used to be an appointment at the movie theater. Always first week.
Don’t even know when the next one is coming anymore?